Hmmm…there are some really good looking and better built 13 year olds out there…hehehe…
Guess i’m going to the Netherlands as one of my vacation spots soon:lovin:
I don’t care about your interpretations of the constitution, because you’re just being stupidly idealistic. It’s not like I’m saying “yeah, imprison anyone” I’m saying that PEOPLE WHO COMMIT A CRIME COMMITED A CRIME AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED. It’s stupid to say “oh, we should let go of the child molester. Sure, he rapes children and posted pictures on the internet of it, but HELL! The government entrapped him, so let’s just ignore the fact that he’s a pedophile.” Yeah, sheer brilliance. The fact is that he tried to get kiddy porn. He’s sponsoring child molesters and did something horribly wrong. I don’t care if his civil rights were infringed upon. And it’s stupid to be concerned about a CRIMINAL’S rights over the well-being of other children. And if you think otherwise, you’ve got
And honestly answer this question. Do you think it was right to let the guy who got caught trying to get kiddy porn off the hook? And don’t dodge the question with some BS answer.
For people in the US who are thinking of going to the Netherlands just to bang 12 year old lolies, I think its still illegal to do so.
if the government commits crimes to catch criminals, what makes the government better than the criminals they catch?
I’d hit it, Rhio2K
Dutch Schoolhouse Rock version
Loli loli loli, be a pedo here,
get some kids and ply them with porn, drugs, and beer.
get 'em all fucked up so they will feel no fear
then put it iiiin, pedo for teh wiiiin, soon do it all again
lol, this guy wants a Minority Report society
nice
It was a sting operation. They didn’t actually have kiddy porn.
ok. i found some stuff about Operation Candyman
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.10/kidporn_pr.html
interesting…
Don’t forget this one: http://cgi1.usatoday.com/mchat/20020325004/tscript.htm
"CINCINNATI,OH : OF THE 89 PEOPLE ARRESTED HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE ADMITTED GUILT TO WORSE CRIMES. AND ARE MORE ARRESTS POSSIBLE. THANKS-MIKE
Michael Heimbach: Additional arrests are pending and of the individuals arrested to date, over 40 children have been identified who were victimized by these individuals and face additional charges."
damn, if i wasn’t so drunk…oh well, lemme try this intoxicated.
you take everything to its absolute extreme like this guy was caught with his dick in a boys ass while singing micheal jackson songs. entrapment is fucking entrapment shit fuck. thats the law. without due proccess of law, we might as well just point to anyone and say they are guilty. your question is flawed. i didn’t dodge shit, i just slapped your fucking little boy ass with reality, the reality is we live in a society of laws and proccess. its the heart of american society. if you don’t fucking like it, move to communist china, but even there they have a sembelence of laws and proccess. maybe you should move to a dictatorship and leave america to those who desire order and freedom. people are caught all the time through the proper channels and they face proper prosecution. the fbi couldn’t even do that and they fucked up and let this guy off. it wasn’t the aclu, it was the protectors of the law who should have known better than to be criminals themselves while ‘trying to protect children’. i’m sorry you got raped as a child and now you are all butt hurt(literally) about child molestors, but i’m not gonna sit back and allow for the government to be exempt from thier own rules so you can feel safe that an ACCUSED(read: not proven guilty) seeker of what could have been kiddy porn won’t be sacrifced along with the very core of our american judicial system.
Entrapment is entrapment? You mean catching somebody looking at child pornography because it was a setup is fine, since his constitutional rights were infringed upon. And you think you showed ME reality? You’re the one saying that somebody’s debatable constitutional rights trumps the safety of his potential victims. Yeah, that’s definitely the best setup. Realistic, too. I can’t believe just how stupid your flawed logic is. And I don’t care who found out who he was guilty, or how they proved he was guilty. Because HE. WAS. GUILTY. That is ALL that matters. Great argument, btw. “Yeah, you were molested as a child so stfu.” Aren’t we the smart one…wait, no you aren’t. You’re an idiot.
Great job dodging the my other question, btw.
yawn you are ignoring simple fact. my arguments are NOT about validating actions or not. they aren’t about protecting criminals and child rapists, though you are obviously too ignorant to grasp the basic nature of my points and repeating them now would be masturbation.
your entire argument is founded upon the idea that you don’t care about the constitution or the laws of our country. arguing it is useless. have fun ranting at windmills. i’ll live in the real world where the law must be applied. better get to bed now kid, you don’t wanna be late for homeroom.
i need another shot of grey goose…been fun kiddie. don’t gte raped.
You my child are a fuckin idiot. This is what happens when society spoils kids these days with too much freedom. They think all this shit comes for free.
It is thanks to the constitution that we are able to live our lives relatively fear free from the government trying to set us up. If we follow your “example” this follwing scenario is a reality:
Say you, spudlyff8fan, click on a link to a regular old porn site. But what you didnt know is that the government set it up and now you are redirected to a child porn site set up to catch pedophiles. According to you since you just visited the site, you are guilty no matter the cause and your balls should be dipped in volcanic magma. Do you realize how rediculous that would be?
LEARN ENGLISH. That’s pederastry you fucktard.
And do your fucking homework before coming here preaching without basis. At least search the fucking wikipedia. Most of the activists just fight for the freedom of having consentual relationships with young people. But I digress, and before you strawman me as you tried (and failed miserabily) with [color=white]angryliberal, I don’t support this stuff, 12 is too early and kiddie porn is a no-no in my book. Although angryliberal makes a fantastic point that you’re no more prepared to sex at 14 than at 45.
But you’re just conducting a witch-hunt with no factual accuracy. And whatever point you can’t argue you just ignore it, great way to go. I don’t think trying to reason with you will do no good.
@Rhio2k: You see ME! :bgrin:[/color]
Angryliberal, i think your just using big words for him to understand. There’s one flaw in your guys arguing in that you guys think you can spot a pedophile quite easily.
Here’s another way to put this argument. Pedophiles are just wrong. If they DID something wrong, then let them be prosecuted.
If people had signs that pinpointed that they were pedophiles, i think society would not accept them anyways. THe thing is you can’t really point at pedophile if you were looking at a random crowd.
If we were to just fuck with everyone who we thought as pedophiles, we’re no different then people like hitler and KKK in those days.
I think if one is pedophile, they will commit the heinous crime. My opinion comes from reading “Lolita” by Vladimir Nabokov. IF people think of pedophiles or the word it has probably a much more negative connotation.
Nobody likes pedophiles. Child pornography is bad.
But, this is the internet; the internet is a horrible place. So, people argue just to argue.
Anything is acceptable, apparently in the aprehension of the “bad guys”…
…and then, what happens when our great society starts making “the bad guys” a much broader category of people? It’s all fine and dandy until you get included into the witchunts where any kind of proper procedures and rules are thrown out the window, and vigilante justice rules the day.
“Thought Police” is a fun concept too.
*edit-and of course, with our oh-so-xenophobic human nature at play…the broadening of the “bad guys” category of undesireables SURELY isn’t likely, right? Yeah, sure.
I like angry liberls posts because he seems to be using the most logic and facts and the least pre set/ opionion bassed bias.
A thought police is bad. No one should be jailed because they have a desire to rob a bank. No one should be executed because the have a desire to murder someone. And no one should be imprisioned and shunned just because they have a desire for young girls.