Some observations about the main character and stuff:
[details=Spoiler]One thing I was pleasantly surprised by this movie was how they handled the main character. I thought for sure we were going to have to endure some emo self-pity fest over him getting his bro killed for the entire movie, but thankfully that never happened. Dude had five years to deal with that so by the time he goes back to action, he’s already gone through his “rock bottom - I just get everyone killed - leave me alone” phase and we see him return as an older, wiser and more humbled man.
I also thought he was going to be the “loose cannon” stereotype, breaking rules because…you know… he’s just a loose cannon rebel, man!
Yeah, he was brash and a little cocky when he was younger, but I got the impression that it stemmed from him fighting for the greater good in a giant freaking robot with his big bro. Who wouldn’t enjoy that?
Also, when he and his brother did disobey orders, it wasn’t some reckless stunt to get another kaiju kill or reap some sort of personal glory, it was to legitimately help their fellow man. I think that was a strong scene that showed that although they were literally bigger than life, they still retained their humanity and remembered their job was to protect human life whether it’s a whole city or a few fishermen.
I thought the little girl was adorable and some may call her first encounter with Pentacost cheesy, but I thought it was a pretty powerful scene. Come on, who can hate freakin’ god Elba standing on his bad ass mech with the light of heaven shining behind him?? No wonder Mako took and instant shine (hah, get it?) to him.
Also, that crab Kaiju seemed really determined to eat that little girl.
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I’m not saying that PR intentionally ripped off Evangelion completly but 30% of the elements were very Evangelion like while the 60% was like Evangelion in reverse. There just wasn’t any religious tones to make it almost 100%.
There was just too many things that gave such an “evangelion feel”.
The whole mech vs monster duking it out in coasts/water then eventually hitting the cities.
Both Robots were created to fight off the invasion of Monsters (i’ll give it, Eva wasn’t the first anime to have that…
The entire world banding together to stop the monsters from causing mankinds extinction
Pilots linking with their robots through mental/neural interface
There is allot more i can write. I’m not saying PR was a rip off because i don’t think it was but how the hell can anybody not be reminded of Evangelion from watching this is beyond me.
Do you have anything more specific? All the things you mentioned are not exclusive to EVA. The means of control of the mechs are drastically different. The monster design is different even on a conceptual level. Pacific Rim monsters actually make some kind of sense for living organisms. Eva’s Angels could look like anything upto and including a giant floating ball. Neural linking to mechs is nothing new. The method used in this film is closer to G-Gundam than Eva.
The things you mentioned are true of tons of mech based shows. The things that make Eva uniquely Eva, though are missing. There’s a near complete lack of the cerebral component you get with Eva. No existential quandaries or anything of the sort. There’s also no governmental subterfuge like in Eva. Religious imagery is nowhere to be found (well aside maybe Idris Elba bathed in light).
Heck even the overall tone is different. In Eva there’s still a sense of normalcy to their lives. They still go to school and interact like normal people outside of when they’re running a mission. This movie pretty much has a countdown clock to destruction running in the background the whole time. There’s no parental manipulation, no “big sister” characters, no rivals that the main character is possibly in love with.
The only points this movie and Eva have in common are the points that most giant mecha based fiction have in common.
I never made the story as a parallel because if PR did include the deeper parts of EVA’s story (characters, religion…) then it would be a rip off so demanding for parallels as deep as you put in this post is kind of stupid because you obviously interpret this whole similarity drawing as a claim of a rip off. So in short, in order to see Evangelion from this you need to have all the deeper qualities of the body of Evangelion’s story since you were going off about how there are no big sister like characters, religion tones, and other parts of evangelions inner-story.
PR is it’s own movie and it’s similarity reaches only the interface level. The whole “humans countering alien monster invasion by building robots that are controlled neurotically, and confronting them on water…”. You can claim other mech anime’s that had this, but none of those anime’s were unknown outside japan. In short, if you took something like Gundam merged it with Evangalion and removed the Eva Units, Characters, and Religion you would have the plot of Pacific Rim.
Man, my sister said that shit this weekend and I just had to give her the WTF face…she was on the line of getting kicked out our parent’s house and I don’t even live there anymore haha.
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No, don’t litter this movie with NGE thoughts. I liked NGE as much as the next guy (the first go around, I never watched the re-hatched version), but there are ‘currently’ no ties to NGE and this except the scientist handshaking ‘an Angel’ so to speak. The robots weren’t Kaiju powered. The Kaiju origins had NO relation to the angels in NGE. There was NO religious ties, and NGE was pretty much ALL religious, so that’s a huge element. All the ‘angels’ in this were pretty much identical while in NGE they varied GREATLY. I mean if you want to say their are people piloting Eva units, that’s fine, but its nothing different from Voltron etc. The movie was 900x more ‘Voltron’ (while I jokingly laid out a sequel that was Voltron, it actually does run pretty parallel in concept to Voltron, with an ‘evil’ force sending these monsters, and our only chance at fighting back being these robots.
Oh yeah, NGE didn’t make sense and required fanboys to derive meaning out of the last few episodes to create an ‘ending’. Then they undid it for a movie where the only memorable thing was Shinji getting a kiss from Masaki, and him choiking the shit out of Asuka. The nut must have felt GOOD haha.
How else am I supposed to interpret what you’re saying. You attribute 90% of the movie to EVA but then say the similarities only reach the “interface level.” I mean it you
you’ve subtracted everything that makes Eva, Eva. Fighting monsters in the water before moving to fighting them in the city is mroe a Godzilla hallmark than anything. Heck in the double event battle, them finishing fighting one monster by the bay then going to fight the second one in the heart of the city gave me strong Godzilla vibes. Especially when Otachi revealed it had wings and flew around carrying Gypsy Danger. That was some straight up Rodan action. Heck even building the giant robots in the fashion of, “to fight monsters we built monsters,” is more like Mechagodzilla 2. As opposed to we covered biological beasts with your mother’s soul trapped inside with mechanical armor-bindings.
There just aren’t enough similarities to substantiate your claims and/or apparent fury.
these are opinions that are not respectable. i bet these same people liked the man with the iron fists even though it was a pos movie. just because a niche group of people with questionable tastes like something crappy does not validate their opinions.