From reading this post, it’s obvious you don’t know what you are talking about. And for you to assume that I’m not learning a matchup supports my last post. You post some of the dumbest shit. Please remove your head from your ass.
I see that this isnt going anywhere. You’re too stubborn to see the truth. But I want to know what major weakness Yun has that EVERY character can take advantage off. Since you’re defending him so fiercely you should be able to tell me this. If not, you proved that you’re full of hot air and should break your copy of the game in half.
Hahaha, this nigga’s calling Da Knut a scrub? GTFO.
It is some shit that a meterless wakeup special isn’t fully punishable on block by a majority of the cast, especially since Yun just SAILS over your head and across the screen, messing up horizontal charges, and having very little recovery time on landing. Remember the last time that a wakeup special got someone out of jail free (Gen EX Oga)? That shit got destroyed in Super.
Ex oga was fully unpunishable and you could control where you were gonna land. Hk upkicks might be hard to punish for charge characters, but the majority of the cast can get at least a 200 damage punish.
One thing you idiots aren’t considering is that if they add recovery to his upkicks his whole okizeme will be fucked up. More recovery on lk upkicks also mrans no more AA upkicks into GJ.
If I whiff my dp, I’m going to eat an ultra to the face, if not my opponent’s biggest combo. I can’t possibly see how you can justify Yun’s (140-190dmg) reversal options with “well, you can punish him for 200 damage. That’s good right?”
Not only just damage, but Yun gets a free safe jump and/or dive kick mixup opportunity after landing upkicks. After the pathetic 200dmg punish, what can we expect as a comparable followup?
Good. Fuck his okizeme. If he wants okizeme, he can use Lunge. Fuck his upkicks into super as well. He already has a million ways to land his super, which is arguably one of the best supers in the game. He’ll still be S tier without that one option.
No, he does not get a safe jump after his upkicks.
Other than AA lk upkicks he has only 2 RELIABLE ways to land his super (shoulder and target combo) which is on par with most other characters.
Like 80% of the cast can punish Yun’s whiffed upkicks with Ultra…only charge characters and a small handull others cannot. In fact it’s even more punishable if you bait it. I said “at least” 200 damage. If you’re using a charge character, well , I’m sorry, that’s your choice.
If anything he needs his stun meter nerfed (1000 stun, wtf??), his lunge punches (all of them except jab version) shouldn’t be such a brainless way to get in and his palms should either do less damage OR have less active frames AND more recovery. Those are reasonable nerfs. People complaining about his jab shoulder pressure (-3) and his “unpunishable” upkicks just make me laugh and should probably go play some black ops.
What about meter building?
Don’t you think it’s just a bit too good?
Yun is Yun because of GJ, he needs the meter. Maybe some meter building nerf on his palm could be ok tho. You still need 8 whiffed palms for a stock, which is good but isn’t mindblowing anyways. Make it 12-14 whiffs for a stock and it’d probably be better.
The meter than Yun builds while he’s in your face pressuring is fine tho.
I’m still amazed there are so few complaints about Yang and so many about Yun. Yang is just as good, people just don’t seem smart enough to understand it tho.
Also everyone is complaining about ex lunge, but mp and hp lunge are actually far more brainless. If spaced decently (and it isn’t hard to do it) they still get you in your enemy’s face for free and only at a very slight frame disadvantage. Even if you’re at -1 or -2 you’re now right where you want to be and you didn’t even have to spend meter.
I actually really enjoy fighting Yun and Yang. I do think they’re pretty GDLK characters though. Their pressure game is amazing.
I think… well I kinda wonder what the designers were thinking. When I beat a good twins player, I always feel like I had to bring my absolute A game. If I’m a bit lax, i’ll get destroyed. But hey… that’s the game. I don’t HATE them, but I do think they could be reduced a little bit in power.
This is exactly the right mindset all those crybabies SHOULD have.
Too bad not many people think like you and they’re like “I don’t wanna put effort into beating [insert new top tier name], just nerf him to shit so I can have an easier time AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NEXT TOP TIER”.
it not for the easy time shit.
even not top player like to see big tournaments match and when it became Yun, Yun, Yun, Yun, Fei Long, Yun, Fei,Viper
you know something is very wrong with the game.
btw Yes Yang is strong but a lot less stronger than Yun he need some brain to be played. i prefer to fight 10 Yang in a row than 10 Yun
“a lot less”??
lol
And I guess Fei is also “a lot less” stronger, right?
I wonder what game people have been playing in the last months…
Fei and Yang is under Yun hands down.
i still think that Fei is over Yang.
but oh wait you only shit talk and flame again and again so meh. who cares about explaining to you
I’m sure that your online play opinion is worth more than Mago’s or Daigo’s who say that Fei is #1 in this game.
If anything we can say that they’re very different but equally strong, but the fact that a scrub like you gets his mashed crouch techs stomped by yun’s multiple dive kicks doesn’t necessairly equate to the fact that Yang and Fei are* “a lot less”* stronger than Yun.
the very fact that only mago and daigo put fei that hight while all the other japanes top players put Yun on the top and Fei long following with yun. 2 top player yeah but all the others put there Yun (tokido for example, just to say someone that use your same char).
Hold on sec…you still havent told me what Yun’s weakness is. Dont forget, if you fail to do so you admit that you’re a scrub full of hot air and that I was right. 
Now tell me: How do you defeat Yun with uhm, lets say Gen. Or Guy. Or Elf? What major weakness does he have that every character can abuse? Dunno, right?
Fei might be strong but he’s extremely prone to N-jump and focus attacks. Yang cant get in safe cuz he has short normals+really unsafe specials and his BnB pushes him away from the opponent, giving the opponent a chance to escape pressure. Viper has problems with N-jumpers and focussing on reaction. Now for Yun plz.
Probably because Akuma is at a pretty bad disadvantage vs Yun while he’s at a slight advantage vs. Fei?
He doesn’t have any “major weaknesses”…now what "MAJOR weaknesses does Fei have? and what major weaknesses does Yang have? And Akuma? And Viper? Yeah she has crap footsies but her gameplan doesn’t include footsies, so fuck that, it’s not a REAL weakness.
All the top tiers don’t have MAJOR weaknesses, that’s why they’re at the top. They have MINOR weaknesses that are by far outclassed by their MAJOR strenghts. That’s why Yun and Akuma are at the top while T-Hawk and Hakan are at the bottom.
The “weaknesses” you listed for viper, yang and fei are definitely not “major”, lol. Yang is so fucking full of SAFE specials, just like Yun. His slashes are safe if you space them DECENTLY (not even good), so is his palm and his dp can be FADCED. Oh, did I mention he has a teleport? lol. Good luck focusing viper and neutral jumping her mixups, ARE WE PLAYING THE SAME GAME??? Did you see Latif and Wolfkrone going autopilot with burnkicks in 3/4 of their matches and shredding their opponent into pieces? Focus vs. good Vipers is a fucking SUICIDE. S U I C I D E.
Yeah, Fei is somewhat vulnerable to neutral jumps, at least you got that one right. But calling it a MAJOR weakness? He has ROCK solid defense, extremely high damage output and the scariest corner pressure in the game. Did I mention he has one of the best set of normals in the game and the 2nd or 3rd best focus attack?
Come on, lol.
That’s why I suggested it. You should have to choose either max damage or positioning - getting both is some bullshit.
I’d be ok with more recovery on hk upkicks (they fly further away) and same recovery on mk version so you can keep the positioning at the cost of some damage
@ Superlollo
Wow, every comment is you blindly defending Yun
The character is OP, no question about it… Atleast admit the character BS