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LOL Xian wins a match using 1 hand with Yun. That is a bit ridiculous IMO.
People beasting with one hand in fighting games is nothing new (I saw this nearly 20 years ago at the local arcade). When the opponent is serious business, they’re back to normal, trust me.
@HyunSai: yeah, but you got to admit that Yang has way less more tools than Yun? Or it seem his power in term of damage are not as intense as Yun?
Nevertheless, his Super mix up is crazy. It can easily deal 60% Health.
i main yun so I don’t have to deal with the BS along the way. Simple as that, have fun complaining guys! kudos.
Apparently ono is going to be announcing a rebalance.
LOL WOW…see IMO that’s just skill that Xian has…he won that game not Yun.
Anyway I was in a bit of a character crysis and one day i was watching my replays and notice that im a very offensive player and that’s when i searched for a character with that play style and I picked up Yun and was like let me try him out and tbh what really draw my attention to Yun is his combos.They look cool to me…and also his character design. I remember one time i was playing online and some guy beat me with Oni…so i wrote him and said “gg wow Oni is tough for me cuz I just picked up a new main”. This guy wrote " Your a Yun player…what are you complaining about ? You dont deserve to complain if your using such a broken character " . That’s when i realized people are taken this shit to the extreme…oh well you cant please everyone
If history serves us. expect them to be neutered like sagat was in super.
Actually I’ve toyed with Yun when I want a break from Balrog, All I have gotten is “GG man” and “thanks for the sets” when I’ve used Yun. I get Hate mail when I use Sagat and not with Yun or Balrog. Something about Fireballs and High Step Kicks people can’t stand.
Yun is quite OP but then again I main Cody and I get the same kind of bullshit abuse when I beat people. Rather then people getting beaten and looking within themselves and saying I need to improve as a player the first thing they want to do is just make excuses about there loss rather then just admitting that they are lacking skills somewhere.
people you fight complain about cody? WTF?
his dps move far and are not punished as well as any other dp.
his shoulder is safe
his palm builds soo much meter and has active frames longer then the animation.
his ex lunge leaves him at advantage! and pushes you into the corner, gets him in close for one bar, and he can combo an ultra after it
his command grab is the best.
hes a low risk/high reward char
LP shoulder is “virtually safe” because -3 + push back range. Other shoulder = free punish. -6, -7 and -6 on block.
Compare with Yang, Fei and Makoto. I dont understand how the hell did CAPCOM create a character and make his twin brother has a crap command grab but he got one of the best one. It is like they intend to make Yun overpowered
His DPs can be EASILY PUNISHED. I am assuming that you can’t punish it with a normal considering that you don’t have the friggen’ reversal window to help you.Try Cl. Smp Shoulder against a good player. He will reversal you before you start up the shoulder. His palm isn’t exactly anything to worry about if you don’t let him build meter. Ex lunge and Command Grab is stupid though. Which is why I said that he requires minor tweaks. However, he is not an overpowered character. You are an example of a scrub who continues to whine for mass nerfs. Yun is definitely strong, as I’ve said, but not overpowered. If you lose, it simply means that you are worse at this game then the person you lost to, even if they are using Yun. You have no excuses for losing. It’s as simple as that. Otherwise, all you are doing is crying like a scrub. Quit whining and start getting better.
Can you really instantly discern LK/MK/HK/EX upkicks and still have time to react with the appropriate punish?
At 16f startup (and animation cancelling), I have no idea how anybody can react to this. Either these “good players” you speak of are blindly mashing, or you are too predictable with your st.MP xx shoulder loops.
And how do you propose we prevent him from palming for meter?
If I can beat my opponent when he picks any other character besides Yun, doesn’t that mean that they’re winning because of the character?
u assume im complaining because i lose to him, ive never lost to yun, got psn? lets play!
Can you please tell me why you care about what some fucktard messages you online over a video game?
Jump in to punish -> BAM. Use move to punish -> BAM. use projectile -> ZOMG he EAT the projectile. Use some anti projectile move -> Succeds, but what if he FEINT it -> free punish
May be, but also may be because his main char is Yun, or his old character got twisted so he does not want to use them (like i used to play cammy in Vanilla, but i dropped after the TK CS removed, took my 2 months to master those in keyboard and now they are gone)
Mashing is acceptable. It is in the game. It is the Yun player who need to adapt to it. if you mash and you win, you win.
Only his HK DP make him way too far for some characters to punish, but most can punish after a blocked HK. The rest just make him land in front of you, how can you not punish them?
Still this do look like the old Cammy Cannon spike, the bounce back was too far for many characters
it died when it was a lot younger than 10.
Let’s face it. There are tons of random nobodies who had never been even a minor threat in SF4… until they picked up Yun. Sure he’s not unbeatable, but unlike a lot of characters that require extensive practice and matchup knowledge to be played to their strengths, Yun can just do shit and win. When I play Abel-Akuma I know I’m at a disadvantage, but the odds of running into an Akuma who can play the matchup well enough to make it as totally one-sided as it can be (7-3) are very slim. When I play Abel-Yun, and idiot can pick up Yun and play it as a 7-3 matchup even if he can barely hit confirm, can only get in using EX lunge and has no footsies.
Best part about this whole thread… when I was sitting in on the Evo panel after semi-finals, and Ono gave us a formal apology for Arcade Edition (I’m told formal apologies are serious business in Japan) and specifically mentioned the twins needed rebalanced after he saw some of the bullshit this character got away with. Yun players can cry all they want… you are not going to get any respect, because you don’t deserve any.
I think its frustrating fighting Yun when he has so many tools and Capcom went out to make him REALLY good when at the same time Capcom simultaneously decided to take the nerf bat to 90% of the cast…
For example, Rose has no reliable reversal and must play a footsie poking game to win (by the way, she has to play this game in a game whose engine does not encourage this type of defensive zoning game but emphasizes combos and mixups) and in Super she had one and ONLY one true get out of jail free card… Soul Sattelite. Well… Capcom just decides to remove the invincibility on U2 doesn’t make EX Spiral a true reversal, doesn’t speed up soul throw, doesn’t give her Vanilla Sweep or Soul Piede back and then as if Rufus wasn’t bad enough, decides to make Rufus on steroids in terms of dive kicks and mixups.
Capcom gives a character a design, makes the design ineffective in the engine then like a final slap in the face says “This is what the maximum potential of this game is” and shoves it right in your face while you watch helplessly. Now I play Cammy in ST so before anyone talks to me about learning bad matchups I don’t wanna hear it. But when Capcom decides to nerf 90% of the cast then literally add in an S (or S+) tier character in Yun, an A+ (or S) tier character in Yang (who gets overshadowed by Yun but I’d really like to see some of the stuff Yang players are coming up with) and Fei going from B+ to A+ or S tier, you should expect that when the living embodiment of perfection under the SF4 engine comes and rapes you’re now helpless character, that MIGHT make the game less fun for people. Now, I main Rose, alt Juri, Juri does okay against Yun, Rose might as well lift her skirt and ask Yun to rape her on the spot and get it over with but I’m still going to play the matchup because I realized when I picked Rose, that I was picking a character without all the tools and whose tools are naturally hurt by the way the game engine functions. I made my choice and I will live with it. If you’re a Yun player, and you get through raping someone whose character was decent, fun, and interesting in Super and then was made worse in AE while you play an S+ tier character who was created just for the sake of mass rampage over a 35 member cast, you get what you asked for too.
I think Yang is fine, may be he need some tweaks, but he look interesting to me. I am also playing Yang, although he is not as good as Yun, he still look very potential.
For Fei, everybody know that Fei receive almost no buff from AE (s.lp +1 make cr.hk possible after for vortex, but HK CW - his main anti projectile and long range get in move - lose its invincibility) so he is almost the same from 3 version. Some of his bad match up or even match up got nerf, that is why he become good (not against zangief though, that LP SPD range is ridiculous). It is collateral damage, because many people become worse that is why he become better.
more like you jump in, bam you get hit with a counter hit palm because the active frames last longer then the animation!
you use a projectile, he breaks it with his palm!