if was an chick, i would marry you because of this post.
lol no problem.
I dont think any two people are really EQUALLY skilled. But thats my opinion. You do make a good point though.
Yun players do have to put up with the Yun hate, but vice versa non Yun players must put up with Yun players. In a game in which Yun, is a character, a playable one, there is only one thing the SF population can do. Accept the fact that Yun players will be everywhere. No amount of hate or rage on Yun will make the character disappear from the Character Select screen. he is a character and he will be picked.
Now my definition of losing is no matter how a fight is played, humans do not enjoy losing. Be it a fair fight or a cheat, one will set off anger more than the other, but try to smile when you lost a Grand Finals match, even though it was fair. In all honesty, i dont believe anyone can leave with a cheerful face after that. Losing doesn’t just cause anger. It causes resentment, sadness, doubt, confusion, on and on goes the list. But all these emotions are on the borderline of anger. Try and see pass the superficial aspect of a “fair fight”, a loss brings no joy to anyone who is playing to win. Playing to learn is a different story. Now you are right, losing to a Yun might spark a more immediate and stronger negative reaction, but regardless of character or fairness, a loss shows the loser he lacked necessary requirements to win, and who in this world wants the feeling that they are under someone? That even if the fight was fair, they lacked requirements or simply didn’t have enough training to win?
you are right though, Yun does has more advantages than everyone else. I know the reason why people hate Yun and honestly i can relate. having played pro Smash., when Brawl came out and Melee players made the short switch to it, Metaknight was the Yun of Smash. Op beyond beleif, if you saw less than 20 MK’s at a tournament it was a miracle. MK hate rose like a fire. Officially banned from some major league tournaments, you can imagine how OP he was. Having always mained Marth, every time i faced an MK, i felt just like everyone here feels when they face a Yun. But instead of hating or raging, i learned the match up, tactics, everything i could to win. Ill admit i did rage and hate on MK and its players, but then i realized that MK was a character, he would be played, and the only way i can push forward is to accept that fact and hit the dojo for some serious matchup training. And unlike SF, no patches for Smash games. MK was there to stay as he is forever. And ever.
What i am trying to say is that hating on Yun doesnt not change anything. Most Yun players are there to win (most, not all). If Yun is such a dread to players out there, wait till the patch or simply stop playing. Sparking a hate flame on a charcter, does ANYONE see a positive in it? Rallying up like minded people to increase hate on an already tense subject?
I DO HAVE 2 QUESTIONS : WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD? AND DOES IT BRING ANY POSITIVES TO THE TABLE? (other than, “we hate yun and want to pwn noobs, and no but we hate yun”). no trolls 
sounds like you dont enjoy the game half the time, the only time where its reasonable to get salty is getting robbed of wins from people who do herp derp shit and get away with it
i dont get it
You think? I´d say this thread has become a lot more interesting since page 5. Before it was just bashing and re-bashing. Right now, the way it sounds, we are pretty close to an agreement. One argument sparks another and creates a good and provocative discussion.Or that´s at least my idealistic way of seeing this…
@ smashUmi: I liked your last post a lot. The thing im seeing right now is not yun hate / flame. It´s the exact opposite. People are sick and tired of hating on him. I know i sure as f*** am. That´s why we avoid situations in which we have to flame on him by simply removing him from games. And by “we” i mean people who don´t play for the “win” alone. People who play for fun. With friends for example.
So, preservation of fun, and avoidance of flame / hate…
How can that be wrong? We don´t have to fight a character we don´t like. The Yun player doesn´t have to put up with our shit. (I know it´s shit, i really do. Nobody want´s to learn how to fight an op character matchup when A) the producing company admitted fault in this matter and B) will be patched soon)
That´s like rolling a fucking boulder up a mountain to clear the way, when you know the next earthquake coming will drop this thing into the sea anyway so just wait it out…
Basicly, it was one person being pissed off because he got kicked out of a endless battle party, cuz he plays Yun and the fact that he received hatemail. He thinks its rediculous that people are treating him that way. Well I have a message for him: You play Yun -> Get over it. Blanka players get this every day for breakfast.
Agreed, but this usually lasts untill the character gets nerfed so only the core players remain (like what happened to Sagat). Ive played a lot of fighters and there is always a stronger character in the game, but that doesnt have to mean that you lost because of a imbalance. A lot of times I see players complaining about something, but I always point out that in every fighter decision making is what wins you games. My biggest problems with Yun were his +1 EX lunge and the active frames on his palms, cuz they endorsed a derpy play style wich was hard to punish.
I basicly have 2 separate thoughts when it comes to competetive play and “casual”.
-Competetive: If you could win money by playing a videogame then why wouldnt you optimize your chances? (seriously why wouldnt you?)
-Casual: Why bring brass knuckles (Yun) into a casual sparrings fight? You could do it and some people might be up for a challenge, but dont be suprised if people avoid you.
Honestly, me either. People are and were acting like the character is dead as soon as the adjustments were made and before any location testing was even done, nobody even seemed to consider that there would be more adjustments and testing. I’ll live with the changes an keep on rolling, those changes aren’t going to kill the way I play, nor will it take the fun out of a character I like to play just because I have to work that little bit harder for it. Biches are acting like he’s suddenly become one of the worst characters in the game.
I think it’s also down to both ignorance and arrogance of the player who immediately thinks they are the same skill level or higher than anyone they will face online, when they lose, it’s a blow to the ego and by default blame the character, cheap moves or anything but themselves.
I think its funny when i get hate mail, makes me feel glad i play yun. But I been playing him since yang was just an alternate color because he was like terry but with a skateboard and a divekick, how could you not play yun???
I kind of think I am starting to see what some of you are talking about to an extent, but probably not in the same way you are. I’ve met a few Yuns online who just seem to think they can win by using only shoulder, upkicks and fucking lunge punch from the other side of the screen. Some of these guys had pretty high BP, they also were exceptionally easy to beat. I’ve met one good Yun player so far, it was fun.
I think all the community can do is suck it up until the 2012 update. Which is going to be easier said than done. We know you hate Yun. No sense in trying to make it worse than it already is.
I’m sure he’ll still be a good a character after the update.
Likewise
this should interesting to see who rises to be the better twin. regardless, i’ll stick with yang since i always felt that he was more cooler/flashier than his brother.
D_Dollars, Dec 16, 2010
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hilarious
Your attempts at trolling are pretty hilarious.
I don’t know how you don’t find that funny. He is the guy we are all talking about. The guy who just chose the best character because he didn’t want to put in the time because the second or third best character wasn’t good enough or too difficult. He contradicts everything he says with his custom title and his posts. Its funny. It is. I even saw a video of his yang and its pretty good, but that wasn’t good enough. He needed the best and easiest character. People act like the twins aren’t easy to use, but I think they are just confusing the time it takes to get used to a new style as the character being difficult. Been playing Yang lately and he is definitely way cooler and more interesting than Yun is. And he requires some timing. I wish he had less health and did more damage with his rekkas though.
Are you trying to convince me or yourself? Your trolling ability is hilarious because you’re attempting to get a rise from someone you completely fucked up quoting and attempted it in a pretty dead thread days after anything was even said by the guy.
Secondly, if I want to talk about Yang, I’ll go to that forum, perhaps so should you.
Ok, sorry. Honestly I don’t really know what trolling means because I don’t usually spend all day on forums correcting people. I didn’t know you took the forum so seriously when this is clearly just a friendly banter thread. I was just in the Yang thread and saw it. It is funny. I don’t need to convince you. I wasn’t even talking to you actually though you feel the need to defend every Yun player, even when they are a prime example of the type of person that people are annoyed with. They make all Yuns look bad, especially when they openly state they are gonna jump ship as soon as the update comes out. And I don’t know how I misquoted someone when I just copy and pasted exactly what they said. Secondly, Shut up. I was comparing Yang to his brother and then made a side comment about how I would like it if he even LOWER health than he already does in trade for slightly more damaging combos so I dont have to do 10 combos a match to win, as opposed to Yuns who like their character to be perfect and any suggestion of a nerf sends them running to a whole different game. If you want to redirect people then maybe before your first 5 posts you should have read the TCs post so you knew what we were talking about before you came in on you high horse. The guy I quoted is a prime example of people taking the easiest road to victory and choosing based off the tier list, because if you really wanted to become a better player, you don’t pick the best character because when that character gets nerfed or you switch, you lack good fundamentals and it ends up costing you in the long run. He choose characters that he liked the design of, Juri and Yang(B+/A, A+/S tier), but they weren’t strong enough so he switched to Yun in the S+ tier. This is what people are talking about and all you can say is learn the match up. We know the match up. We know its one sided in Yuns favor pretty much all the time. He isn’t unbeatable but in the right hands its an up hill battle all the way because he takes away so many options. Some of us aren’t all spending all day in the training room. I don’t have time for that. Job, girl, life. These things get in the way of my true desire to play Street Fighter all day long and some day be the best in the whole worrrrrlllldddd(with Gen). Come on. It doesn’t make me mad and I wouldn’t kick him from my lobby, but it is funny. Sorry if people switching from Yang to Yun amuses me. They use Yang, but if they lose, they immediately pull out Yun next match. Its funny. How do they not understand the hate mail? I have an IpMan icon so I need to be taken seriously.
Can I get some paragraphs in this bitch?