Guys, this stuff has been discussed in the thread before, especially the ducking straight stuff. I made a list months ago. U2 whiffs two hits on Rog in the corner. Also, you’re wrong about the straight things. MK ducking straight xx Fierce JU hits on both Gief and Cammy.
Found it.
I’m just trying to figure out who MK duck straight works on for maximizing hits on U2.
No way you landed MK Duck straight on Dictator.
MK Straight whiffed on:
Dhalsim
E. Honda
El Fuerte
Guile
M. Bison (Dictator)
Zangeif
In my own test (manually every character it whiffed during playback and record/playback doing on Cammy who I thought to be the hardest to land mk duck straight)
I just went into practice mode and did it. It’s not hard, just plink
It is impossible to land a Medium Kick Ducking Straight on Bison from mid-screen after EX MGB.
I may have plinked it early enough that both mk inputs dropped and I was left with the short. I do remember having a lot of trouble doing it before.
If you plink a special move you get EX if it had a EX version so this is a unique issue 
I am certain that the characters I listed it whiffs on.
Vs Bison it is best to do EX MGB > Ultra 2
Well I’ll fire it up tomorrow and try again seeing as how my buddy is sleeping in front of the tv right now. I haven’t touched that list in forever so it needs an update. I will admit that all the characters you tested it on are the characters I had trouble with the first time around. From the brief amount I did today, I got it to land on Gief fairly consistently, which means I might have been ridiculously early fairly consistently
Logan: Even with less hits in the corner LK Duck straight U2 does more damage than cr HK x2 on Rog (Boxer).
sHK EXMGB crHK crHK = 350
sHK EXMGB LK duck straight U2 = 412
I thought he meant Dictator not Boxer. I never tried just straight Ultra 2, does it not whiff the first 2 hits?
Are you dashing or walking forward a bit because it’s whiffing without a LK duck straight.
Is this Dictator or Boxer Bison?
Ok, vs Boxer in the corner:
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > cr.HK > cr.HK > Ultra 2 = 379 dmg
st.HK xx EX MGB > cr.HK > cr.HK > Ultra 2 = 458 dmg
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > LK Ducking Straight > Ultra 2 = 349dmg
st.HK xx EX MGB > LK Ducking Straight > Ultra 2 = 412dmg
So doing the 2 cr.HK into Ultra is preferable over the LK ducking Straight
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Vs Dictator
Mid Screen:
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > Ultra 2 = 363 dmg [media=youtube]pP1mmlgqNTQ[/media]
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > LK Ducking Straight > Ultra = 349dmg
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > LK Ducking Straight > HP Jet Upper = 291dmg
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > LK Ducking Straight > LP MGB = 281dmg
cr.LK > cr.LP > st.HK xx EX MGB > MK Ducking Uppercut > FADC on 1st hit > LK Ducking Straight > Ultra 2 = 389dmg
Ok I see you meant crHk x2 into U2, thought you were saying just cr Hk x2 and thats it.
And you did inch forward before U2 to hit Bison.
Yes, otherwise you only get like 3 hits. Just delay the PPP input by a fraction of a second.
Couldn’t you do what you just said for Dictator with short ducking straight or does the guy fall too fast to make a change?
U2 gets less hits and does less damage if you do the lk duck straight.
And I never realized how lenient the SSF4 inputs were. I’m doing the qcfx2 and press the buttons really late lol.
You have to ask if the hit(s) you get back do more damage than the straight itself. You know that since most of the big damage combos go from ex mgb xx duck straight xx U2. I’m saying if he can delay it enough to get more than like 3hits of U2 on Dictator since you don’t have to be on-point with your U2 input to get it to connect after duck straight.
SF4 in general is loose as hell with inputs. The command shortcuts still boggle my mind.
If you can get more than 4 hits of U2 after the LK duck straight, you just might do more damage (that straight pushes a bit) but you get all 6 after EX MGB walk U2.
As it stands, Dictator is the only character I can see where it is entirely beneficial to only ever do walk Ultra 2.
The damage difference is entirely character specific. Some characters you only gain an extra 7pts of damage from doing the very difficult MK Ducking Straight > Ultra 2 over just plain walk Ultra 2
And on Adon, you HAVE to do Ducking Straight to land Ultra 2 because you cannot walk far enough.
Doesn’t Dhal take like 4 hits after a duck straight U2 too? Would walk U2 be better on him just like Dictator?