Omega Bison

Anyone else encountered a bug with Omega Bison, where if you execute EX scissors, normal scissors still comes out instead?

I’ve double checked my inputs and I’m definitely pressing more than 1 Kick button at the same time to execute, and a lot of the time a regular scissor kick will come out.
Happens a lot when you try a EX scissor kick loop.

Maybe it requires 2 bars like omega psycho?

Nah. Only one bar is consumed. You can even double check the video I posted.

I don’t know if it’s PS3 only. If anyone is playing on Xbox let me know.

EDIT: Checked again using a mapped KKK button. Problem still occurs.

Then maybe it lacks the 1f input tolerance, like Supers, or has no diagonal input tolerance.

Been playing too much XRD and busy with work. I didn’t even know this was coming out today. OMG Omega Bison bits need to be defaulted to the regular USF4 version. :frowning:

Sounds like a plausible explanation.

I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet, but from what I found, Omega Bison can’t link crouching shorts. Apart from that, Omega Bison was probably the most interesting character I found. Messed around with Fei long, E.Ryu, Balrog, Adon, Yun and Yang, but for some reason their Omega changes didn’t seem too inspired. Well, for me anyway.

I’ll take linkable EX-Scissors and that new overhead.

You can’t do scisscors with charge back + down forward, you must do it now with forward only, like honda’s headbutt. Which is odd, because I am used to it with down forward. :frowning:

Cr. lk, cr.lk doens’t combo anymore

Ex Psycho is quiet nice, but cost 2 Bars :confused:
You can combo after the overhead.

That explains why I cant do scissors. lol

Why is this not the default Bison? :frowning:

The new Devil reverse should be in USF4 version!

Bison doens’t have a reversal now :frowning: I think omega sucks imo. Played 2 Hours, don’t like it.

Ah I forget, ex headstomp doens’t have any startup invincibility, been kicked out of it already a 1000 Times.

Hard scissors does only 130 Damage, but Hard PC does 170.

Overall I don’t know what to do now with bison. How do I pressure my opponent? sciscors? can’t get them out now constantly :frowning: maybe the overhead works now as a main pressure move, it’s also a motion move not charge, and it’s cancelable after normals.

But EX Head stomp is so sexy?! So is the new Devil’s Reverse. These things must carry over to SF5.

Nah ex headstomp still doens’t track good, imo worser then the normal one. Only reliable after a knockdown imo.

My post got completely ignored I see. :expressionless:

It’s not a bug, EX scissors just has a longer charge time than the normal version for some reason. I don’t know the exact frame counts it takes to charge a move… but from what I see it takes roughly 1 second to charge up regular scissors, whereas the EX needs roughly 1.5 seconds. The amounts may not be precise but it definitely requires extra charge time.

So it’s more than 55 frames? Maybe 60-65? Anybody got some reverse engineering tech or frame counting with 60 FPS video?

New heavy kick deals 130 damage
Close MK is at least +6
Slide 120 dmg
Cr.MP damage educed from 80->70 and probably +5
s.mp probably 5f now
Cr.lk still links into cr.lp. Probably +3 now and cr.lp 3f?
psycho 150,160,170 dmg. Faster startup. Probably 12f.
death flutter is a jum with a set distance
devil reverse moves fwd automatically…
psycho is a lot unsafer on block
ex psycho’s last frames don’t trigger animation, so bison combos

Either st.lk is more positive now or they sped up both cr.mp and cl.hp. I can link into both

Nice also find you get full animation if you cancel into super after a psycho hit

Oh, I see why c.LK didn’t link to itself. They gave it a MP and HP Psycho Crusher cancel property ala SFxT. You can punish -3, -4 stuff with c.LK xx MP or HP Psycho Crusher and continue your shenanigans.

Forcing people to utilize the forward direction to connect with specials instead of down-forward to not mess with the new diagonal attack inputs is kinda confusing as hell at a glance but it makes some sense now.

EDIT: Omega mode is hilariously.

Focus crumple> df.HP, s.MP xx HP Psycho Crusher
Ambiguous j.HK, cl s.HP xx MK Axe kick, c.LK xx HP Psycho Crusher
Ambiguous j.HK, cl s.HP xx MK Axe kick, c.LP, c.LP, c.MK xx EX-Knee Press, c.LP xx HP Psycho Crusher

Bon appetite

Too good. Too good.