(OLD) Ken General Discussion Thread (Combos, Techniques, etc.)

i never used it as an over head in super only used lk tatsu as a crossup and ex air tatsu to get in and to do srk fadc air tatsu shinryuken

so it doesn’t hinder my gameplay at all

same to me, also what do you think about the startup in lp dp, does affect your gameplay?, i personally dont use lp dp, just mp dp for AA and hp/EX dp to punish.

Ken’s start ups on crouching MP to combo twice seem slower than Ryu’s. Or is it just me?

You can only combo c.mp into c.mp on counterhit, but you can now 1 frame link into c.mk (an easy 1 frame link) or 2 frame link into c.lp, but the c.mp normal is so improved for frame traps.

interesting westlo, how much is on block now?

Looking @ Frame Data it’s now +1 on block and in Super it was +0.

What everyone has said above… Not only that, consider applying St. HK into your game as well as Step Kick. It is a bit shorter range, but it can test the waters of what your opponent is willing to punish on block, and it does also pretty good as a poke.

definitely satisfied, however, I can’t make good use of the TC other than punishing (old habits from 3s).

I love the sweep!

Bait a return reaction by using c.lk and punish accordingly.

But really you should give this a read and try and implement the things you understand.

http://sonichurricane.com/?page_id=1702

yeah i don’t use it much so no

Good find.

Ah, thanks for that.
Standing MP to footsweep works!
Also does crouching jab to footsweep work because I know standing jab to footsweep works?

No, cr. jab is “only” +5 on hit. Btw, only standing far mp works, very happy with this tho, no need for counterhitting the mp.

Talk to me yall about Ken’s two overhead kicks [Back MK and Back FK]? Is it useful in mixups? I don’t see players utilizing it as such.

I use back mk to finish block strings, catches people almost 100%. Makes them antsy next time the situation pops up and can end up scoring a counter hit setup or makiing them whiff a big move.

Check this out for uses with the Forward+roundhouse move, thunder kick. Ken's Fake Thunder Kick Mix-ups!

Appreciate it.

Didn’t know where to put this but I just wanted to give props to Banana Ken, damn he’s on fire. Probably top Ken in the US/EU me thinks. Anyways, crazy Ken, watching @CEO and other tournies.

Good stuff too Lilsicx I saw you @ Revelations I think. I gotta get back into Ken I’ve played him way to much and got kind of bored (No big scene here) but I’m getting back. Also finally getting a stick I think lol

Not sure if this goes here, but I was messing around with tiger knee air ex tatsu early in Super for Ken’s trial (couldn’t figure it out then) but seems fairly easy to do. Hope it’s not day 1 knowledge.

Thanks

Good stuff. According to SSF4 AE: Wiki, Ken’s EX FB has 1 frame faster recovery now making it total of 57 frames.

and on that note, i recorded some combos in the corner with ex fireball.

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