(OLD) Ken General Discussion Thread (Combos, Techniques, etc.)

[MajenX]

Hey guys I have a question about comboing with Ken, would you say j.EX Tatsu c.mk Tatsu is a good cross up combo? Or is it a waste of EX? Personnaly I find that the EX Tatsu has decent range and it works sometimes. Also I practice everyday the following combos, c.lk, s.p, c.mk, Tatsu, c.lp, c.lp, s.p, c.mk Tatsu or any links into Tatsu for that matter because I basically never combo into Shoryu. I’m pretty consistent on practice mode but online I often miss i’m wondering if it’s the lag?

And sorry i’m not too familiar with the SF4 notations.

depends on the situation really… comboing into tatsu is a good habit, especially versus characters who have a strong wake-up game… You wanna combo into srk vs characters with weak wake-up games…

and ur c.lp, c.lp, s,lp, c.mk tatsu is a bad idea… get rid of one of the jabs… not only will this mean less scaling and more damage, but itll also keep the opponent close so you dont have to use an EX-tatsu if you don`t have the bars for it…

and regarding the online issue… its not necessarily the lag... its more of a mindset thing… youre free to focus on nothing but the combo in training mode... in a match many factors come into play and youre execution suffers because of it sometimes… but it`ll become a habit soon enough… muscle-memory trumps everything in the end it seems

[System_1]

Guys , have a question about this combo linking . I’m quite comfortable with cr.lk , cr. lp , cr. mk xx tatsu or srk , but I’ve always seen the cr.lp in the combo replaced with st. lp .

So , what’s the benefit of doing so ? Dmg shud be similar , maybe further range covered ? or easier to link with higher frame advantage.

[prorook]

st.lp is +7 hit advantage so you can easily link stuff off of it.

[Ryuken9]

Thanks for the reply MajenX, about the 8 hits combo into HK Tatsu, it works on bigger characters so if i’m playing against a Gief for exemple I would def do that, but I agree a shorter combo would be technically better.

I have to admit I spend more time on practice mode these days I already know the basics maybe I should do more match.

[crazed]

Thanks for the reply MajenX, about the 8 hits combo into HK Tatsu, it works on bigger characters so if i’m playing against a Gief for exemple I would def do that, but I agree a shorter combo would be technically better.

I have to admit I spend more time on practice mode these days I already know the basics maybe I should do more match.

Don’t use HK tatsu against Gief when he has ultra or super.

[MajenX]

Crazed is correct… it leaves u with -1 frame disadvantage and Gief`s ultra/super comes out in one frame…

[Wantonx]

Then he butt rapes you

[MajenX]

indeed… 600 FREE damage does qualify as rape… Ken is so bad in this game he gets punished for comboing people

[megamonk4]

Someone from the Ken Improvement thread were comparing Ryu to Ken and why Ryu would still be better than Ken. He said something about that Ryu can EX fireball, FADC, Ultra, while Ken cannot. Well, I found a Youtube video of Ken performing EX fireball, FADC, Ultra. [media=youtube]JXZr-iTKdTg"[/media]. It looks legit, but I can’t replicate this yet, I think the frame link is really small. Has anyone else been able to do this?

[Tekei]

Hi everyone.
This is my first post here, and I hope I’m not being stupid now but is there a thread that lists Ken’s option selects and how to do them? Similar to this one I guess.

I have tried searching for “Ken Option Selects” but either I’m overlooking something or there isn’t a thread for this. If that’s the case I guess I’ll just start shuffling through all these threads for some answers.

[crazed]

Someone from the Ken Improvement thread were comparing Ryu to Ken and why Ryu would still be better than Ken. He said something about that Ryu can EX fireball, FADC, Ultra, while Ken cannot. Well, I found a Youtube video of Ken performing EX fireball, FADC, Ultra. [media=youtube]JXZr-iTKdTg"[/media]. It looks legit, but I can’t replicate this yet, I think the frame link is really small. Has anyone else been able to do this?

Yeah it works but it’s really tight.

Hi everyone.
This is my first post here, and I hope I’m not being stupid now but is there a thread that lists Ken’s option selects and how to do them? Similar to this one I guess.

I have tried searching for “Ken Option Selects” but either I’m overlooking something or there isn’t a thread for this. If that’s the case I guess I’ll just start shuffling through all these threads for some answers.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=219638

[Tekei]

Thanks a lot Crazed!

[prorook]

I’m trying to incorporate OS into my game. Its giving me a headache. Heres a general before and after flowchart regarding my jumpin combos from 6 months ago up until now.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2391/jumpinflowchart.jpg

:[

[lilsicx66]

haha good shit prorook i masterd all these option selects as soon a i found out about them, im glad to see ppl catching up with the os uz ken needsm

[ImagineVC]

hahah nice! if you dont mind, imma throw this in the Option Select Thread cause its the truth!

[prorook]

lol, I dont mind, but its not a real science…I spent like 2 minutes on it. I dont know if anybody else does s.lk OS tatsus, but my fingers dont like the s.lp+mk+hk OS and s.lk works on all characters. Definitely cant do a c.hp from that s.lk either. And of course you can do other things after getting blocked…and you can toss another lp into the combo/blockstring most of the time. I guess its ok for a starting point though.

[Apollo]

biggest thing i had to get over was freezing up after an OS. lol whenver they actually blocked my jumpin i used to just sit for a second.

[fnshr]

ALL INFORMATION/QUESTIONS ABOUT KEN’S MOVES/COMBOS/TECHNIQUES GO IN THIS THREAD

Kara Focus : This is Karaing Ken’s Step Kick with his focus attack.

Why: Focus Attacks are also used to absorb fireballs from distances. When Ken cant keep up with a fireball war, he needs to get in. This makes Ken close ground faster, and get in as fast as possible. By doing the Kara Focus into a foward dash, you would be covering a significant amount of ground.

does anyone have a video or anything explaining how this is done please ?

[ImagineVC]

does anyone have a video or anything explaining how this is done please ?

[media=youtube]yk9gpIjkqhg#t=0m59s[/media]
2 kara focus dash cancels can get you to the other side of the screen
look at the inputs on the left side of the screen and thats how a kara focus should look

[fnshr]

[media=youtube]yk9gpIjkqhg#t=0m59s[/media]
2 kara focus dash cancels can get you to the other side of the screen
look at the inputs on the left side of the screen and thats how a kara focus should look

thanks for that dude ima have a look into it right now