I finally have a good working joystick now that I ripped the PCB from my anniversary stick and modded it to work in my agetec stick.
BTW for all you people bitching about how the brackets work, when I was rated #3 in ST I believe there was a tournament where after two wins I faced Julien Beasely and then Nate consecutively, so I don’t wanna hear that shit…
Honestly IMO you should be playing to beat the strongest people anyways, for myself I don’t really even consider my ST wins to be that big of a deal because I haven’t beaten either Nate or Julien in a tournament yet…
But if other people want to get seeded perfectly and eat up weaker players like pacman so they can get the highest possible ranking, I can understand that competitive mindset too, I’m not hating.
Being compared to Kuenai has struck a nerve with Pablo. You’ve also reinforced my point. No matter what I do from here on out, I’ll always be the guy who lost to Geif. And you [along with Kuenai] lost to the guy who lost to Geif.
Julian, you did face Nate after losing to zass on 5/11. But that’s after Nate climbed out of the loser’s bracket after getting sent there by Fusulu in his first match. Nate would go on to take second in that tournament, beating Fusulu in the loser’s finals. It has been noted by many on SRK that double elim brackets really only serve to define the top 2 players. If you’re truly one of the 2 best at a tournament, you’ll end up in the grand finals. If we wanted an accurate look at the field, we should do seeded swiss or round robin, followed by a double elim bracket. But that’s only feasible if we had 10+ consoles/screens to play on.
While we’re all bitching about the tournament match-ups, I’ve had to play Evan in 5 of the 7 tournaments thus far. That’s as many times as Mandel has faced him. But Mandel has faced him in later rounds, where Evan always crushed me within the first two rounds or winner’s or losers. And Evan’s the person that I practice against more than anyone else. Perhaps both Mandel and myself would be better served if Evan were to meet with an unfortunate accident. Then Mandel would reach round 3 of winner’s, and I’d get to go two and out against someone else.
Upon reflection, I think I should only allow late entrants in round 1 to face the lower seed in a match-up. They’d still have to randomly pick which part of the bracket they’d get inserted into, but the higher seed should be protected from having to take an extra game. In the case of ST two nights ago, SamY was the seeded player, so he would have been exempt from having to face Justin (the late arriving Gray Fox). Contrary to what Raishinken said earlier, I still belive that if we haven’t moved past the first round, people should be allowed to come into the tournament. Anyone have thoughts on this matter?
I can’t help but feel this is being directed towards me
Nolan’s never won a tourney during this season for one, and I think this last tourney was the 2nd time I’ve played Evan in the first round. I also think I played Rat first round in another tourney but whatever. My situation is a much different one than the one you’re trying to paint here.
Yes after TWO WINS you faced Julien Beasley and Nate consecutively. Not in the first round after being seeded third. Once again, my situation is a much different one than the one you’re trying to paint here.
I got people posting about me like I’m scared to play good people or some shit. Gimme a break man WTF? Really? I been playing these dudes for years now. I play Evan a lot outside of tourneys. It’s almost equivalent to traveling to a tourney in a different area then having to play the dude you came with first round. But if it’s a question of my competitiveness or whatever then so be it, lemme face the harder muthafuckas first round. I’ll take on anybody. You wanna question me, if any of you had seen that last match I had with Evan you probably would’ve realized I should’ve won. I was mainly talkin about the principle behind it all. Not to “bitch about the brackets.”
Mandel you have a point and everything, but there is always going to be reasons that any player can complain about during a tournament, I had my joystick break and act like I was stirring a spoon through a bowl of captain crunch in the middle of a match I lost, but I didn’t complain that much about it.
Like Yohsuke said, individual tourneys don’t mean that much because you are really playing a small sample size of matches…
I’m not trying to hate because you are a versatile and more skilled player than me in general, but I think you should smoke weed and relax.
I agree with what Keith is saying. I agree that we should accommodate late players as much as possible, but not to the extent of redrawing the bracket. Formally I suggest that the procedure be:
Entrance and money is collected at time of signup. Brackets are drawn up with those players who have signed up and whose money is collected.
If someone arrives late to the tournament, they are accommodated, but lose any seeding they may have gotten. Late players forfeit any seeding rights whatsoever, they play who they play, and that’s it. It’s just too hard for the tournament director to redraw backets.
If someone knows they will arrive late, they can phone in their registration by registration time and keep their seeding AS LONG AS SOMEONE PAYS THEIR SIGNUP FEE (otherwise we will have people showing up late, not liking their seed, and then not signing up). All efforts will be made to delay their fight until they arrive, but if we need their fight to proceed in order to move the tournament forward, and they aren’t there, they get a game loss.
We were 3 or 4 matches in when these new cats jumped in the tourney. Doughboy acts as if we were watching the 1st match being played. Nobody should ever forfiet there Ranking for being a little late when people that show up even later still get to play in the winners bracket… But i see your point Julien, just not right to put stuff the way it is.
somehow it works out that i have to play my regular competition a lot in tournaments. part of it is definately due to the fact that most of the tournaments are relatively small, but it seems like there are a bunch of people that enter that i never battle with. kinda odd.
Julien, I’m not sure if the down payment is a good idea. I can see that the Seattle ST players all know each other and wouldn’t mind putting down $1 for someone else. But Marvel’s the game that we have the real issue with late entrants–since it starts earlier. I’m not sure if people would want to put down $5 for someone else. I don’t even have $5 in my wallet right now. Keep in mind that there have been several occasions where Ratt, Row, or someone talked to Cody and said that they were coming, but didn’t even show up. It would kinda suck for the person who put down the entry fee in their place if that were the case. I remember Cody talking to Row once (I think it was on 4/20) where Row said to sign him up, but then went to Muckleshoot Casino for the evening.
Jetay, We were in the 3rd match of the first round when Gray Fox (the second late entrant) showed up. At that point, I don’t think it really hurt anyone to let him into the bracket. The pot gets bigger, and he got to the chance to play unencumbered.
Evan, our scene is rather small compared to other competitive gaming events. I’ve ran CCG and LAN events in excess of one or two hundred participants which are far more physically taxing. And I’ve never had as many people cry foul as with the case two nights ago. When we only get 9 players (which has happened a couple of times), people can expect to play against familiar faces. We need to start dragging bums off of the streets to avoid having rough match-ups early. And yes, sleep with one eye open.
Deezo, weed is devine. You have played Evan as your first match in 3 tournaments now. Surprisingly though, you’ve never played him in the first round. All 3 occasions where you played Evan as your first match, it was in round 2, where you had a bye in round 1. The first two times that you played Evan as your first match were 3/2 (he played Nolan game 1) and 4/20 (he had a bye), where EVERYONE was bracketed according to the double blind method (it was before we started seeding in tournaments). Andrew Fleming was my double blind on 3/2, and Nate served on 4/20. Curse not the fates, but those guys.
7/6 set as the next tournament date. Tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell your enemies so that you’ll be able to crush them with witnesses present. Start issuing those money match challenges.
I demand to see a Kuenai vs. Pablo MM. Pablo has to be drunk and belligerent though. Far beyond where the top Marvel players were for the last tournament.
“Shit, if I lose, I’m going to stop drinking.”
Row, during his match to Ratt
Due to the accusations during the last Marvel tournament, I’ve changed my description from “puff, puff, mash” to what you see now. If Pablo can claim “Black Power!”, then I should be free to do this, right?. . . My rep is about to get raped.
But you don’t have wisdom when you’re sober. I need to listen to your exegesis on life which you seemed only to have shared with Julian thus far. Why are you keeping it a secret, man? Why don’t you share that wisdom? Plus, I’m sure you’d be far more prone to physically attacking Kuenai after he wins the money match if you happened to be drunk. That’s entertainment value. I love violence against women and children. That’s why I’m a fan of Takahashi Rumiko.