the more and more that I think about it, the more im finding that im going to be kinda forced into playing one of the following shells:
Jill / Sent
Jill / Dante
Jill / Iron Man
Jill / Raccoon
Jill / Hawkeye
Hey, dude, you’ve just said all the important things I say when I’m asked about antiairs assists for Jill. Jill can’t convert well out of Vajra, so this assist is used to impede superjumps and increase mixups and get more (not so much) damage. Does this make it worth the effort? In my opinion: no. With Jam Sessiom, Jill can eventually superjumps and convert the assist into a combo with jM jM jH, DDK, not mentionting the aburd THC. This makes it worth the effort.
I think it’s the case when you have a point with an assist so good for him that it seems the only choice. Something like Morrigan + Hidden Missiles. But do I have to play Doom if I want to play Morrigan? Of course no. There are option. In this case, Vajra is, of course, dispensable for Jill.
It’s been a while, 5 months I guess, that I don’t play Jill/ Skrull/ Hawkeye anymore. I split this team in two new ones: Jill/ Spencer/ Hawkeye and Nova/ Skrull/ Hawkeye, trying to build stronger synergy and not to drop any of my lovely chars.
Stone Smite is a poor assist for Jill gameplan; I wanted something better for mixups, and not forgetting the damage stuff. So I went to the lab with all the cast and stopped in Dante + Jam Sessiom. It seemed the better option.
BUT I wanted the damage/ easy controls route: as I had already Jill with her infinite FC cancels, I wanted someone to rest my fingers a little. Dante is a high excecution char and his damage is not so great, even the DHC into Million Dollars is not hurtful at all. As I played Spencer in Vanila, I chose to use him again. Now, if Jill dies, I stick with a great shell (Spencer + Triple Arrow), better than Skrull + Triple Arrow. Not mentionting I have now a better “inverted team” (if I start with Hawkye, slant shot is ridiculous for mixups and Hawkeye neutral game, and I swapped Somersault to Arrow Kick to cover Hawkeye’s front)
I wanted so much to run Jill + Ammy, but I didn’t find the second char.
Jill/Ironman/Ammy ? Repulsor Blast or Unibeam are really good !
jesus christ figuring out this team building shit for Jill is so irritating…
I want to run Iron Man because he provides an easy infinite and one of the best assists in the game for Jills neutral…BUT hes got shit matchups.
I want to run Sent because I love playing as Sent and Drones is arguably the best assist in the game for Jills mixup game…but its so fucking slow and Jill cant cover him well. On top of this, Sent loses hard to the same matchups that Jill loses to (except for Doom)
I kinda want to use Raccoon because hes a lot of fun to use and because it essentially gives Jill mini drones and since raccoon is so small, I dont have to worry about covering him as much…that being said, Spitfire doesnt have much durability so it gets raped on counter call (which is becoming a huge part of the game).
I want to run Storm because I love storm, she provides a TAC infinite, has fantastic movement, and has a great assist in whirlwind (durability wise at least) and she has some decently good matchups (especially vs Trish and Doom)…but her damage output is pretty bad for the most part, and whirlwind pushes the opponent far away which is counter intuitive to Jill getting in.
I would use Hawkeye for Greyhound, but his damage output is pretty bad as well and gimlet DHC does shit damge.
Dante is an option, but if I used Dante I would be running weasel shot, and that has ass durability too…
To be honest, it seems like as of now, im kinda forced to play Jill / Dante / Strider…and I kinda dont want to. I really dont like Jill / Vajra…I would much rather have a good ground assist to help Jill get in.
Basically what I want is one ground assist to help Jill get in, and one ground assist to keep them locked down. Idk what to do. This is annoying.
Is durability really that much of an issue concerning lockdown assists since they should already be blocking? Weasel Shot is pretty nice for that, actually, and there is of course Cold Star.
I’m kinda stuck in the same boat as A Member of STARS. I’ve been trying everything and I can’t seem to find a team to work. Now I’ve been using Jill/Wesker since vanilla and I do know Wesker isn’t the best team member the Jill, however, I REFUSE to drop either characters because of my undying character loyalty, but at the same time i’ve had such a hard time finding that last member that I enjoy playing and works well with the team. I’ve used Doom, Dante, Taskmaster and Strider, Frank, etc. and I still cannot find a team for my life.
I’d suggest dropping one or the other in favor of someone more complimentary. Maybe you’ll grow to like some different characters once you’ve attempted to synergize them with Jill. I did.
I’m in a similar position as you. I just can’t find a third Character that i can like a lot. I have used Task, Trish, MODOK, Spencer, Frank, Dormammu. I’m currently with Jill/Skrull/Iron Man. Because i Enjoy a lot playing with those three in the same team.
But i do know that Skrull doesn’t have a very good synergy with jill (same happened with jill/trish).
I’m not trying to build a team AROUND Jill if you are thinking that. I’m just trying to build a decent team with characters I like or somewhat like without having to exert so much effort into hitting characters that stay at the top corner of the screen. I feel my Jill/Wesker is at the point where I don’t NEED a horizontal assist, but something to deal with the type of characters I mentioned earlier.
If you’re not trying to form a team to directly benefit Jill in as many ways as possible, then it can’t be that difficult to come up with someone. Granted, your construction will almost certainly suffer for it and lack overall efficiency, but I’ve never been one to intentionally deny someone’s fun.
Anyway, who can reach up in that problem spot?
Dante’s Jam Session
Dormammu’s Purification
Hawkeye’s Ragtime Shot
Doom’s Missiles
Strider’s Vajra
Taskmaster’s Vertical Arrows
I’ve recently pondered suggestions from both Paulo and A Member of STARS who both claim that Jill’s need for an anti-air assist is mitigated by a quick character swap either by hard tag or DHC. Maybe you’d prefer that more open-ended approach.
Actually, you’d be surprised with Jill/Wesker synergy, they might not be able to DHC into each well, but Jill and my future other member will benefit from the OTG assist while I can either use SomerSalt for defensive purpose for wesker or Cartwheel Kick for combo extension. I’ve used Strider, Doom, Dante, and Taskmaster a bit and I honestly can’t tell who works better. I haven’t used Dorm and Hawkeye yet though…
I honestly can’t think of any need at all for a dedicated OTG assist on Jill. Setting up unblockables with Wesker’s gun and any of Jill’s instant overheads sounds funny, though.
You probably won’t find anyone able to benefit from Cartwheel, but Somersault’s CC is okay sometimes if you have the resources. Don’t overlook Arrow Kick, either.
She doesn’t need a OTG yeah, but it doesn’t hurt to have one, plus it does add a bit more damage on her combos. The unblockables are also another plus. Wesker DOES benefit from ground bounce assist though because he currently doesn’t have any in his move list and it also adds on much more damage to his already damaging combos.
If you need to know what my team looks like now, it is Jill/Blank/Wesker. At first it was Jill/Wesker/Blank or Wesker/Jill/Blank. At that time I didn’t like the idea of having Wesker as an anchor because I didn’t want to follow that wesker trend in the beginning, but the DHC damage was HORRIBLE. I can honestly say that the only positive thing I found having my team in that order was Wesker being able to capitalize off of a punish Raven Spike or to DHC into his counter when needed.
I have a question, Does Strange helps Ironman and Jill?¿
Bolts/Dagger/Agamatto? I already have Ironman as an anchor with Unibeam, i know he is terrible 1 vs 1 but I really like him, so i’m trying to move him to middle position!.
Any advice?¿
I’m not the best at theory fighting, but I can see Agamatto being a somewhat decent lock-down assist. Since you already have Unibeam I don’t see the point in having Bolts.
Thanks! I’ve seen his videos before. A shame I can’t find any recent videos of that player. I think there’s a Japanese player that plays that team too, but that was a long time ago as well. If you find any more, let me know!
I’ve seen your new videos, and I like the new team better. Spencer gives you some great setups because people are usually disoriented when they get caught. I like Hawkeye in certain matchups, and I wish I have a good Hawkeye. Keep up the good fight 
I trust your judgement.
Also, I’m starting to hate Vajra, even though I like Strider as a character, I hate using Strider.
I agree with this. It’s why I want to learn Ammy.
You’d be surprised at Spitfire’s durability. The only problem is that it’s slow. The good thing is that the mixups you get from it are really good still though. Honestly, pick a couple teams, try them out. See what you like. Don’t get stuck in the theorycrafting loop. I’ve tried out 4 different Jill teams already since picking her up, and I think I may stick with Jill / Sent / Raccoon and Jill / IM / Raccoon for sniping assists. I’m also dabbling with Jill / RR / Ammy too, but my Ammy sucks so this is on the backburner until I get good with her.
Actually, Task up arrows is a really good assist that not a lot of people are using. Not only does it get people out of flying to the top of the screen, it provides a mini missiles assist where it blows up overzealous rushdown on the way down. Give that a try. Plus, Task / Wesker is a pretty good combination, cuz it lets him extend a shitload of sharpstings.
Actually I think Ironman shines 1v1. He’s so good at keeping other characters out it’s stupid. When the other characters have assists, that’s when Ironman suffers because he can’t deal with them that well. Check out maziodyne’s video for Jill / Strange tech. It brings back dat DHC glitch.
@ Iamu
A japanese player name is TOnosama
the team is Shuma raccon ammy good stuff
so even though I dont want to…I think I might have to pick up the dog. Cold Star is just straight ridiculous as an assist. I get 2 mixups off it in most cases, 3 mixups if I do one of them empty…and no one is going to block 2 mixups back to back, let alone 3. Its just…so…so good.
ugh. That dog.