The problem is, all NC tournaments are offering anymore is Capcom games. How can you diversify if state wide the same 2-3 games are the only ones being played? UMVC3 is obviously the official game of NC at this point - it’s flashy and it attracts people I get it but others have different tastes. Anyways, I think we’re going to try to make our niche for KoF, MK, Tekken, SCV etc. Because the reality is, people are going to travel to Charlotte/Raleigh for those anyways. I see a desire for it though so we’re going to try here. Asheville’s a smaller town anyways, we’re used to small showings.
UMVC3 is a simple game to start, difficult to master, and filled with glitches. MK is a simple game to start, difficult to master and filled with glitches - guess which one gets ridiculed? I really do think both games are flawed, as adults I don’t think either one of us can dismiss that. However, the problem is, is that nobody seems to want to diversify here. MK, KoF and SCV went to MLG - not Capcom. I’m not trying to pick at anyone here, but that’s the facts, clearly these games have tournament viability if that much money is being put on the table. $33k in prizes for MK; money talks.
Anyways, bring your smaller games here, we’ll work something out. You guys interested, join the group.
MLG did not choose any Capcom game which clearly shows what the current relationship status between both companies is like given their shared history. Capcom has already monopolized the fighting game genre in this country, they’re not going to give MLG any opportunity to take it away from them.
Anyways KoF is still popular in our state, SCV is still young, and MK for the most part died out. I heard there are still hardcore MK9 players in NC who travel up to Virginia though.
Also one more thing, MK9 became oversaturated with balancing. People got tired of relearning their mains and learning new characters. Jon had a really mean Kung Lao until the nerf bomb hit.
KoF being popular is good, I don’t personally play the game, but I do honestly feel that it’s hands down the best 2D fighter I’ve seen since 3rd Strike (this needs a strong revival too. That game is TOO good and it’s always fun to watch due to the technical prowess that high level players possess in that game!)
SCV is young and I’m wondering how the recent patch will address it, I wish it a long success life however!
Yeah, MK is still going strong - very strong grassroots scene there. NC/SC need to catch up to VA and GA however. Vanilla KL was admittedly really ridiculous at launch, he’s still good but he’s no longer auto-pilot mode, as were all the infinites and other stuff that the game launched with. I would encourage you guys to pick it up now and re-learn it as the patching is finalized and the game is substantially better than it was on launch; NRS shouldn’t have launched it like that but it was a rookie mistake I suppose. The netcode is greatly improved now as well but the inability to AA really goofs up the meta-game offline. The ability to AA on reaction is just too much data to process I suppose. Anyways, you can at least get valuable MU experience out of it now, so that’s good.
KOF13 IS the best and most honest fighter out since pre-SF4. I don’t think anyone in this country will deny that, but Capcom games have always been more popular.
At least NC’s KOF players are much stronger than the Capcom players with their respective games I guess.
We’ve got some strong Capcom players here, but they’re still 3rd Strike purists at heart, unfortunately I don’t think the influx of modern SF4 players have ever touched 3rd Strike; which is really unfortunate. I do like that SFxT isn’t overly forgiving as SF4 is though, that’s at least some small return towards 3rd Strike (not really, but it’s something I suppose lol)
But yes, having moved here from out of state, I did quickly notice that it appears that most of NC devours itself as opposed to leveling up and bringing their respective games to GA, FL, SC and VA. I think we’d all like to see more of that. Atlanta just comes here and blows us up instead.
This is a pretty shitty connection to attempt to make, seeing as how the publicity that Capcom games get is infinitely greater than that of games made by any other company, Namco included. The one single, solitary reason that Capcom is played more is brand recognition. If you were to take Ryo out of KOF13 and put Ryu in his old spot, everybody would be all about that shit. Hell, there are quite a few old school players that I know and respect that simply refuse to touch it if the Capcom logo doesn’t flash before the title screen, and that makes me lose significant amounts of said respect for them. KOF, MK, and BB are all excellent 2D fighters that simply don’t get players to enter, and nobody can put a finger on why. You yourself played KOF, but damn that shit didn’t last long. Why?
KoF and SCV pull the same #'s in tourneys. 8 for SCV and KoF at Charlotte, yet NC is pretty strong at KoF…but it’s not pullin more numbers. Most of those KoF players have been playing KoF for decades, I tried to play KoF but I always felt like I was being left out of KoF stuff cuz I am not good enough to warrant the time to teach. Somehow SCV was “too hard” for people to keep up with. It’s about 1/10th the difficulty to get good at SCV than it is to get good at Tekken 6, yet people refuse to play. Smells like Cashcom favoritism to me.
I’m definitely pretty sure what Matt said is true. It’s all about brand recognition and marketing. Maybe the comparison sucks but it’s like a sports game to an extent. You have EA’s sports line and then someone elses. People go to EA even if the other companies sports game is definitely better specifically because EA has built up that recognition over everyone else so it doesn’t matter if their game is inferior when people are going to buy it regardless because of the name. Whether they go and trade it in a few days later for this other sports game is a different thing entirely but even with that the mass market of this particular genre purchased the ea game so it won’t do any significant dents in the amount of players playing that type of game.
Using Knukleduster - the 3rd strike player in NC is a good example, so I’m going to use him. He’s a good player, but his attitude is garbage, this guy just goes on tangents about how everyone is a f**got and they suck, etc etc. He’s stuck in the Arcade eras with that attitude. It’s stuff like this that’s really holding stuff back imo. I know that there’s other strong 3rd Strike players in the state who’re actually willing to work through difficult MUs to get you better, who want to see NC go places, but we have to start weeding out the people who clearly don’t give a shit about anyone else if we’re going to put the state on the map. It’s got to be a community effort.
Atlanta, for instance, will roll into town with their best players - NC is still stuck in the every man for himself mentality for the most part. At this point in time, there’s not enough dedicated competition to truly level up without traveling and I understand that, but it doesn’t have to remain that way. I’m not saying nobody should have feuds, FGs would be dull without those, but to have feuds with your own scene is beyond dumb. Your scene should be your family, gotta represent what we have.
That definitely is not the problem, when you have Big 2 and WNF pulling 75 for weeklies with only SFxT, Ult, and 2012. And I only quoted this in the first place to say that NC runs every game that is out lol.
I don’t really know what the “problem” is, but I’m pretty sure that it ISN’T Capcom favoritism. As a matter of fact, I’m not even sure there IS a problem. There is a lot of negativity just from the Fighting Game Curmudgeons that just doesn’t make sense. If you aren’t having fun, stop. Don’t try to make the game/tournament/community/anything something that it isn’t.
As for KoF. Yeah I have it I play it at sessions. What exactly was your question?
This type of attitude is a huge part of the problem. You expect others to teach you how to play? You know who taught me how to play KOF? GG? 3S? SF4? BB? Every other game that I’ve won tournaments for that I started out as hot garbage in?
It was me. I did the work, I found people to fight, I played, I watched vids, I looked up information, and I asked questions to those who can answer them. I got myself where I am today, and if you want to get there, continuously asking people to “teach” you how to play is the first thing that’s going to have to stop. You want it, go get it.
Um…no. You’re dead wrong. Tom is an example of what’s r****ight with the community. He wants himself to win, and will do whatever it takes to get there. You know what strong communities (like ATL) consist of? A bunch of people like Tom. Those people respect the drive in each other to grow, improve, and succeed, and the people that Knuckledust (there’s no -er) talks shit about are the exact people that make the scene shitty. If you (broad statement, not specifically you) aren’t willing to put in the same work that Tom, Jon, Roski, etc. are, then you have no business talking about what can make the scene “better.”
The scene consists of a bunch of people. The only one you can influence directly is yourself.
Tom’s shit talk stops at the e-scrubs. I’ve never seen him say what he says online to people who have the drive to learn and are willing to listen to advice and better their game. His shit talk goes to the shitty people who already think they know everything, and do scrubby shit and believe they’re a special little snowflake, people who’d rather sit around and circlejerk each other about how good they all are rather than trying to get better, and TnB.
There’s people who suck, and people who just aren’t good yet. If you’re new and willing to learn you’re just not good yet, and people like Tom won’t fault you for it. But if people suck and won’t listen to advice being offered on a silver platter by people who had to initially fight tooth and nail for it, then their friend probably plays Gief and they can suck Tom’s dick.
idk why people are giving a FUCK about what this GNG guy is saying. he just sounds like another nobody coming into the scene saying"blah blah NC not good enough blah we only play capcom games". pretty much the new sofa king.
That may be true, I haven’t met the guy, but clearly he can’t filter himself very well as a representative for his game. All I’m saying is, if I was Brian, I probably would’ve booted his ass from ReSe. I want to win, who doesn’t? Doesn’t mean I have to come off as a homophobic asshole to a couple hundred of people. We’re all in our mid 20s at the earliest now aren’t we? Time to grow up a bit.
Learn to read. All I’m saying is that NC should diversify more and stop trying to get others to teach them how to play a game. Return to your basement, young unbathed neckbeard. Anyways, you guys can let me know if you’re interested. I’ve been avoiding SRK for a long time for these exact reasons.
Well, I think you should meet Tom in person. He’s not as cynical in person as he is online. If you show that you are an upcoming and improving player, he can do nothing but respect you. Doesn’t matter if the game isn’t 3rd Strike.