I feel dudley has alot of 5-5 matchups, and that’s why he’s not terribly high on any of the lists at all. So he may not be able to rape anyone for free, but he’s at least on even ground. On this list there’s alot of matchups i don’t agree with
Bison, Adon, Cody, Fei Long, Cammy, Rufus, T.Hawk and Gief is defenitely a 5-5
and i would even think that dudz has the advantage on Cody and T.HAWK ( i odn’t care what you say, but t.hawk is a breeze, its so easy to keep him away with dudz its not even funny)
Get that knockdown and don’t get pushed out by something dumb when they’re waking up like a command grab or ex tornado upper/zonk knuckle. You gotta get the knockdown first though.
Are you guys playing good T hawks? Because matchups don’t count unless both players are of high skill and actually play the matchup right.
Cody Dudley isn’t 6-4 but it’s still in his favor. The knife rapes Dudley and bingo beats a lot of your pressure.
cr. lk xx lk duck straight beats rose FADC backwards and leaves her aerial for a super or Ultra 2(if you use it in this matchup). Does the same for Ryu but you can also cr. lk xx lp mgb him for aerial knockdown towards the corner. If they are doing this mid stage it’s only going to send them farther into the corner with another mixup for them to deal with.
well to be fair, my best friend plays cody religiously, so i got the matchup down pat. Alot things cody does is very unsafe on block, even lp criminal upper, and we all know that Dudley is great at punishing things. but there isn’t much to watch out for against cody sans Zonk Knuckles. Zonk is probably the one thing that annoys me about this matchup, but a blocked zonk equals a free standing fierce. Coulda been S.HK but zonk pushes you too far away.
T.HAWK
everything he does is punishable by gentlmanly law when he tries to get close. Standing Fierce is your best friend in this matchup. Hawk really can’t get close to anything you do. Never MGB on block or you’ll eat a throw, if you MGB hit, get away immediately or you will eat a Reversal grab. CC U2 is amazing in this matchup. punishes condor dive on block immediately. Zangief is a much harder matchup IMO and that is defenitely a 5-5. T. Hawk shouldn’t really give you any trouble. I hate grapple characters as much as the next guy, but you gotta get out of that mindset.
I play dudley semi seriously and he realy does…suck.
He’s the kind of character you can bring out every now and then against someone who doesn’t know how to fight him but good solid zoning destroys him, especially good low pokes.
Rose
Sim
Honda
Guile
Akuma
Seth
And really any good zoning character rapes him hard. His punishers are some of the best in the ENTIRE game but against good competition you aren’t going to get inside. His best poke is easily hp…but its really only mediocre…its decent.
His wake up game is absolute balls and is FREE unless you want to take a risk w 1 to 2 ex bars. Once again, do that against good comp and you’ll eat max damage. Not worth it.
So yeah, while he does have some of the best punishers ever he plays an extreme close game with very high execution. You need to land your overhead to jab, cr hp to st hk, f mk to hk, and jabx2 to hk allllllll day or you will get fucked up.
You need to be ON POINT and smart or else you’ll get blown up by people who know dudley.
he’s not throwing out criminal uppers for the hell of it dude, he does it in block string. and for the most part L, Criminal upper is safe on block, im saying that Dudley can punish it, but the window is very small. same thing with Zonk.
@don’t jump you know akuma is really easy for Dudley right?
anyways we could talk all day long about how dudley is good/bad im getting sick of these threads. its all theory fighter anyway, just play him if ur gonna play him, if not then i don’t wanna hear it.
This. Cody has some of the best blocked normals in the game.
Also, Don’tJump so what if he can’t mash shoryu’s on wakeup? You should be blocking anyway when you’re waking up most of the time with any character. Also, those combos except for crouch fierce > stand roundhouse are very easy to execute with practice. If execution was a majority of Dudley’s game I would be extremely good, but I am only ok because I don’t have the mental capacity for SF4.
you do realize that akuma’s vortex is mostly a mind game right? same thing with Dudley’s Oki, its just as much of a guessing game. Yes he has more options then dudley persee, but also it doesn’t take much for Dudley to KO Akuma. I’ve played vortexing akumas, not that bad.
lk duck gets dudley out of a lot of Akuma’s vortex and leaves him at advantage to punish hard (Unless my friend isn’t using some OS’s). From footsie range, Dudley can beat a lot of Akuma’s normals with just standing fierce and blocking (Akuma’s far standing RH whiffs the second hit on crouching Duds so that’s a free cr. jab xx whatever). You can punish his sweep with ultra. Standing mk keeps him out of the air.
You cant scape with ducking except i think tatsumaki, all the rest of the options get covered by os sweep/tatsu or ultra. Also, you cannot punish sweeps if he has ultra, u1 wins. If he chooses ultra 2 you can but then you cannot punish teleports.
I really need to upload some videos against one of the best EU dictators, this is one of the matchups i know the best and its not a 5-5 in my experience. I could get some replays against alliounes cammy too but the skill gap is too big to make assumptions on that matchup even if im sure cammy has the edge.
The more you look at a tier list, the more it seems like a character usage chart or how “figured out” a character is. Near the bottom of the list are characters hardly played, so it’s like “how good are these match ups really understood?” once you get down there. And then you have the “surprise” factor when you come across a character you hardly see used and don’t know how to fight properly (Wong vs Adon).
Would Cammy really be that high if players like Sako and Alioune were playing someone else? These guys are on a whole different level and even if Cammy isn’t that well represented, they have some of the best players using her. I’m not saying she is bad, I think Cammy is good, just that these players playing her might be inflating her position on a tier list.
We as Dudley players, a character who is underrepresented, would obviously have disagreements with a tier list rankings. Pretty sure the Gens, Makotos and the serious Dan, Hakan and Sakura players are doing the same thing we are in their own thread.