poor dudley i just started maining him too 
Lol bad choice?
A friend of mine has been showing me that Dudleyâs wake up game is pretty obsolete. Focus xx backdash pretty much laughs at Dudleyâs high/low mix-up game. This means that Dudley has to choose between duck > straight, or blocking because you donât want to eat a shoryuken, which also adds in the possibility of Akuma throwing. Itâs so fucked up how Iâm getting punished for making my opponent play Dudleyâs game. Duck > upper needs to cause a knock downâŚ
I love Dudleyâs ability to hit like a mac-truck, I love his ability to form juggle combos, I love the concept of a high/low mix-up. I do not like how the 4 engine makes Dudleyâs game less effective⌠ho-hum.
Iâd be happy if Dudleyâs inability to poke were not also crippled by his incredibly slow c.mk or c.hk, but thatâs getting off topic. Dudley is better than the tier-list says, but we all knew that.
Iâm personally surprised that he is not lower on the list. He is still basically the only character I play, but he really is terrible in this game.
Take out the invincibility and the airborne property of backdashes please! Lol
And honestly, the best option on wakeup for any character is blocking. Characters with âgoodâ wakeup options still get blown up by Akuma, Rufus, Cammy, Abel, and so on. Seriously, blocking is the best option 9 out of 10 times.
dud is mid tier for sure. He got decent AA, gldk s.hp and good punishing combos but like someone said his blockstrings arenât as safe as they should be and his high/low can be made obselete with stupid backdash. His footsies are so horrendeous that you canât say that dudley is a solid character. At least now when I beat ppl I know I did inspite of dudley being sort of sucky, which is good. Didnât we all like beating sagats in vanilla?
Blanka Dudley is 5:5. You probably try to Anti Air blankas with normals.
Cody vs Dudley should indeed be 5-5
Adonâs +6 wake up and a 4(?) frame DP? you tell me
Dudley vs T.Hawk is either 5:5 or in Dudleyâs favor imo
Heâll only be like this until the arcade version come out.
This^^^
Makoto has a better time getting in Versus Sim than Dudley.
But yes Dudley is a 164ish character, no more no less.
Heâll go up a ton in the arcade though. Heâll probably score like 9 points across the board making him top middle or high tier.
Doesnt really matter to me though Iâve always been a one character guy in competitive fighters, and a tier placing never stopped me before lol.
People should start subscribing to this ideology. Make the character work for you
No, I was saying Dud vs Blanka was in Duds favor.
The more I play this game, the more I realize Dudleyâs flawsâŚand he has a lot. You have to work a lot harder to win with him, as compared to some of the other characters who are supposedly âevenâ with him. Dudley plays best up close but doesnât have a solid way of getting in. Ducking can only get you so far. Iâve never been the type to care about tier lists but I will admit, Iâm not at all surprised at his placing. I donât see it getting much better in the future either. If anything, he may move up a slot or two.
Personally, I like him where he is. Heâs fun to play and requires thought and planning to play effectively. A lot of people canât wrap their minds around the fact that he canât be used like a Shoto, despite being a character with a âDragon Punchâ. But it is a bit embarrassing that he has Jet Uppercut and canât really use it. :sad:
Sure, he needs to be improved a bit but no matter what Capcom does, Dudley will never be âtop tierâ.
That only works mid stage and cr.lk xx st. mk xx lp. mgb beats it. So does throw. And probably the f.mk XX ultra OS.
There sure is a lot of crying in this thread.
How is Dudley - Thawk 5-5?
yeah agreed, btwâŚjust finished beating GeoM DC Hustle in a random rank match he joined. Tough fucking Balrog I will sayâŚ-_-
Focus backdash doesnt trigger OSâs, itâs a broken part of the engine imo and against chun rose you cant do other than throw to prevent it (unless they are abusing it THAT much you could jump or mgb but they wont do it)
Dudley will never be more than mid tier because you need luck to win, same that happens to other characters. Not that it bothers me a lot, but the character is just based in random and guessing.
lol @ eventhubs tierlist. Câmon liquid we all know this tier list doesnât mean crap.
While I totally agree that Eventhubs deserves all kinds of disrepect regarding the competency of people who post there (El Fuerte is so cheap!!!), you gotta realize the list isnât from Eventhubs but from the Japanese Super Street Fighter 4 Wiki.
We all knew (or shouldâve known) what we were getting into when we picked up Dudley. All that pre-release hype âOMG Dudley new Sagatâ shouldâve been known to be bogus if you played 3rd Strike, he has the same weaknesses and then some.
Dudleyâs not popular, there isnât much data to look at for him. Not surprised thereâs debate on the matchups vs other not popular characters.
AE Dudley changes wonât skyrocket him to the top. EX Duck, faster cr HK, techable knockdown on jump HK? Nerfs to everyone else will have more effect on Dudley than those 3 changes we know.
But we all know that the japanese tier list will always be different then the one here. 3S had Dudley 3rd best character in the game in Japan while here he was like 6th or 7th. I dunno why Eventhubs bothers posting the Japanese tierlist when it doesnât mean anything to us is what i meant to say. also as been stated before, are there even enough Dudz in japan to accurately represent this?
THe majority of Dudley players iâve seen, even at tournaments have not impressed me, not that im trying to be elitest or anything, but i feel that alot of people are play dudley incorrectly. Yes Dudley is a rushdown character, but every dudley i have ever seen play has been reckless and banking on guessing right with their oki.
Truth is, you need to play dudley very patiently and wait for that golden opportunity to really fuck up your opponent and you need to train youâre opponent to play how you want them to play, even if it inovlves eating a couple wake up shoryukens, because the next time they do, theyâre gonna be in for a world of hurt. All im saying is, if the Dudley matchup is being based only on players opinions in tournaments, i feel dudley is being misrepresented. I mean here, the only two well-known dudleyâs that i know off (besides present company of course =) ) are Liquid and Marn. Thats two dudley players, and thats it.
Why did Eventhubs do it? People there ride Japanâs jock like itâs no oneâs business so of course they would. Also, it is interesting to see the differences. Also, I think you can play Dudley either way to be honest, and I definitely play extremely risky. It is very hard to be very patient and you can get beat by people who are just really solid if you keep waiting for mistakes. Finally, who the hell put Dudley 3rd for 3s? I donât care what country youâre from, that is wrong (IMO LAWLZ).
If you really look at the Tier list, it is actually very misleading. Honda is top tier only because he seems to destroy the bottom tier characters 7-3. But, overall, he is like 4-6 or 5-5 against the mid-tier and up. If you take out all the super characters, Honda is right back on the bottom again because he basically did not change from vanilla to super.
Dudleyâs spot does seem misleading as well. He has so many tools to work around fireballs, yet he doesnât match well with fireball characters. Kinda weird.