Netcode

[revben]

I’m from Sweden and I definitely prefer SSF4 netcode, even without sound.

[gozulin]

Lol…Where did you get that? link please.

That’s what I want to hear Capcom say. Obviously they haven’t said it otherwise I’d be in my bunk masturbating to Ono’s pictures.

[Tom_1]

Im also from sweden and sf4 works alright for me, but sfxt works alot better (except the sound glitch ofcourse)

[w00denTEETH]

I am not from Sweden and I think that SF4’s netcode is an abomination.

[Filifjonkan]

It’s interesting to see how the opinions differ depending on where you live. Is the infrastructure in USA really that bad?

[jedpossum]

“SSF4 is unplayable online” - Fuudo from a Famistu interview

[Crimson]

LOL thats why Daigo and Tokido played it online all the time.

[XDubzX]

LOL thats why Daigo and Tokido played it online all the time.

So I guess Fuudo, the winner of SSF4 AE at Evo 2011, is some kind of noob that doesn’t know ish.

[Crimson]

So I guess Fuudo, the winner of SSF4 AE at Evo 2011, is some kind of noob that doesn’t know ish.

He played S-Tier Fei Long, if he can’t hit his BnB online, something is wrong. There is nothing hard about those links.

[d3v]

Stop playing one bar connections and get used to rollbacks.

Rollback netcode is the future of fighting games online. Anyone who says otherwise is only holding the genre back.

[Crimson]

Stop playing one bar connections and get used to rollbacks.

Rollback netcode is the future of fighting games online. Anyone who says otherwise is only holding the genre back.

The thing is that the casual fan won’t see it that way.

[d3v]

Please people stop defending this netcode it has now been officially tested that this game runs at a constant 50MS INPUT LAG compared to offline. Most europeans and japeneese players will be playing street fighter 4 at less than 30ms so the idea that this is better because it has lower input lag in discracefull.

Yes this street fighter x tekken does perform better over large distances and with poor connections because it retains a constant 50ms input lag. BUT for anyone that is just wanting to play friends online or ranked matches from the same country street fighter 4 net code is by far the better option period.

That is without taking in to account the fact that even on the most stable of low latency lines street fighter x tekken is still unstable.

This is basically like setting GGPO’s delay to 2 and is still better than SFIV where the lag changes in the middle of the match.

[The_Mullah]

Please people stop defending this netcode it has now been officially tested that this game runs at a constant 50MS INPUT LAG compared to offline.

Source?

[Goatbot]

capcom can’t make up for the fact that you live far away from who you’re playing, or play far away from your router on wireless, etc.

I get it when Im 15 minutes drive away from my friend I was playing with earlier. As I said previously, I am fully wired up to the router in the same room. Capcom stated (whether it can be trusted cough 2 players 1 console cough is another thing) that the sound issues and slowdown were because of the rollback. So clearly, with slow down and sound frequently cutting out on full super speed broadband connections with both of us wired to routers and only 15 mins drive away, it isnt as you put it “our problem”. It shows that the game leans too heavily on the rollback instead of it being a more subtle feature behind a netcode that primarily works well and barely needs to rollback anyway. From what I can see, rollback has pretty tight limitations and really isnt the netcode miracle some people believe it to be.

[Spyridon]

Source?

It’s a waste asking trolls for sources… Information like that would have gotten out by now in a place like this. Obvious from his account info he signed up just to troll from his only posts and sign up date, probably the person hes been agreeing with since signing up lol. Notice the intentional misspelling of his name, and signature with his “real name” =p

[Tebbo]

I get it when Im 15 minutes drive away from my friend I was playing with earlier. As I said previously, I am fully wired up to the router in the same room. Capcom stated (whether it can be trusted cough 2 players 1 console cough is another thing) that the sound issues and slowdown were because of the rollback. So clearly, with slow down and sound frequently cutting out on full super speed broadband connections with both of us wired to routers and only 15 mins drive away, it isnt as you put it “our problem”. It shows that the game leans too heavily on the rollback instead of it being a more subtle feature behind a netcode that primarily works well and barely needs to rollback anyway. From what I can see, rollback has pretty tight limitations and really isnt the netcode miracle some people believe it to be.

uhm. well you have problems somewhere. i played with a dude about an 1.2 hours away and it was very good. no rollbacks, no slowdown, slight delay, but nothing that wasn’t manageable in a game like this.

[Karas13]

So what’s the difference here… I have a scenario, two opponents standing 6 feet a part…

Player A waits for Player B to move forward then fires EX fireball knowing the opponents pad/joystick is in forward position and it will take time to go from forward to back position.

Input delay: Player B sees the EX fireball and presses back on the joystick, but the input delay screws the blocking and the fireball hits.

Rollback: player doesn’t see the startup frames and only recognizes the EX fireball when it’s in motion. He hits back on the joystik but it’s too late.

Both forms of latency screw up the metagame, especially when people realise certain moves are too good to be true and they always land, they will keep using them. There’s little difference between the two types of netcode when it comes to playing fighting games at high level. The thought that input delay is for casual doesn’t make any sense because input delay and rollback is the same shit, rollback is simply illusion. Non-casual = playing offline.

[d3v]

So what’s the difference here… I have a scenario, two opponents standing 6 feet a part…

Player A waits for Player B to move forward then fires EX fireball knowing the opponents pad/joystick is in forward position and it will take time to go from forward to back position.

Input delay: Player B sees the EX fireball and presses back on the joystick, but the input delay screws the blocking and the fireball hits.

Rollback: player doesn’t see the startup frames and only recognizes the EX fireball when it’s in motion. He hits back on the joystik but it’s too late.

Both forms of latency screw up the metagame, especially when people realise certain moves are too good to be true and they always land, they will keep using them. There’s little difference between the two types of netcode when it comes to playing fighting games at high level. The thought that input delay is for casual doesn’t make any sense because input delay and rollback is the same shit, rollback is simply illusion. Non-casual = playing offline.

The difference is that in scenario 2, the input delay is always at a fixed level. Soon, the other guy learns to look for the startup frames of the fireball and is able to react accordingly. That constant 2 frames can be adjusted to. With SFIV style variable input delay, there’s no guarantee that the input will come out after 2 frames all the time.

You can adjust to fixed input delay, XBox 360 players have been doing it for SFIV at Evo for 3 years now.

[Fluga]

Stop playing one bar connections and get used to rollbacks.

Rollback netcode is the future of fighting games online. Anyone who says otherwise is only holding the genre back.

Rollback netcode is shit for fighters for the simple fact that rollback can make or break a match online in that one instant. KO’s can be rolled back too due to lag as well, if you haven’t noticed. There is a MUCH better system for online fighters that isn’t rollback.

As for my own experiences with SFxT online, it was through a router, and it wasn’t installed. Sound drops everywhere, man. Lag everywhere. I need to play this installed and wired.

[headcheesemaster]

It’s a waste asking trolls for sources… Information like that would have gotten out by now in a place like this. Obvious from his account info he signed up just to troll from his only posts and sign up date, probably the person hes been agreeing with since signing up lol. Notice the intentional misspelling of his name, and signature with his “real name” =p

Nice to see how you guys treat new members I have came on here for help but I think I will give up now and just take this game back and play something a little easier on the eye.
Enjoy your self.