Not quite the same, but I’ve been using a 1080p Acer monitor lately with an XBOX360 hooked up to it HDMI and it’s been pretty much fucking fantastic. If you want sound per TV just set up a shitty little set of those garbage iPod speakers and turn 'em up. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009163
most people dont notice the lag. it might be low but there still will be some. also duel monitor tests are easy. get a crt computer screen hook it up to your pc then hook your spare vga to your monitor and tv then run some clocks that have the timing in thousands of a ms. then you just find the difference between the two tvs and thats your lag.
depending on what input cables they use the ps3 will auto scale media. the HD component will do 720p by default and cant be set to 1080p(somebody confirm this) and the HDMI input does 1080p ONLY(also needs confirmation) im fairly sure its like this…
on the other had if you have an xbox you can set it to scale to w/e you want if you use vga or hdmi or component. but by default setting it will be 720p
I use HDMI output on my PS3 and SF4 will only output in 720p. If I disable 720p in my PS3’s output settings, leaving 1080p and 480i, SF4 will only run in 480i. Other games output at 1080p fine like HDR and MGS4. The reason for this is that there is no hardware scaler in the PS3 like there is in the 360… and I guess Capcom didn’t think the resources needed for upscaling could be spared.
second /scruffy
also the built in speakers are nice and loud
I’ve been reading around and I found a free program to test monitors called Pixel Persistence Analyzer (download @ http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_monitor.html) Found this off the HannsG 27.5in LCD Monitor review @ newegg which the reviewer claimed to be ghosting with his LCD.
The two tests in that program that make the most sense to me is the Readability Test and the Streaky Graphic Test.
Using my crap PC LCD monitor for my results (it has n results-to-.txt maker, but didn’t seem to work entirely for me):
On the Readability test I couldn’t match the correct letters past tempo 7.0.
On Streaky Pictures test (pic 3.0), I had to set the tempo to 2.0 to read it as if it where not moving.
It seems that faster the tempo you can get and still perform the task, the better a monitor you have.
Whatcha think about this, SRK? I’d honestly like to know what the ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms tests received on this program…
Grey to Grey or Black to Grey or whatever tests are NOT the same thing as input lag. Ghosting and other visual artifacts do not negatively affect play. Input lag does. What EVO needs is an input-lag free monitor solution.
Again, all one needs to do to find the best input lag-free monitor is go to:
www.hardforum.com and check out the reviews. Most monitors on the market that are worth buying have detailed reviews there with the input lag test that has been recommended several times (dual monitor setups).
Shap has released a NEW AQUOS 2009 model that has the VYPER DRIVE feature that makes the game lag unoticeable. LC32E67U and LC40E67U
I think this one should be considered and tested since it has the 32 inch model which is WAY more cheaper than the LC32GP3U that was discussed in the first page of the thread. The LC32GP3U is proven already. 0 ms input lag in guitar hero and 3 ms in rockband 2. 3 ms is probably lower than the actual ARCADE Sf4 version in japan which is good.
NOTE
I DO NOT have this TV. I was about to buy the LC32GP3U that is discussed in the first page of this thread and then I found out about this new one.
Cano
Just bought that LC40E67U Aquos… from what I’ve been hearing/reading, the Aquos are supposed to be nasty good when it comes to latency. I actually almost bought the last model Aquos, but since this new one is supposed to be even better, I figured I’d just snag it and find out for myself. 
I’ll keep you updated as to how good this thing actually is.
That Aquos one looks so good. Its at the top of my list. Im waiting for some reviews before making the purchase. Im not that rich and i have to study carefully before I buy.
It would be great if you give it a shot at the guitar hero calibration test and rock band 2 calibration to be more exact with the vyper game mode on.
Please tell us what you get.
This might be the chepeast non-lag TV available right now thats pretty easy to find in your local shop.
Cano
Inkblot already said $600+ TVs are a bit out of their price range. Plus, until there’s hard data I wouldn’t trust a thing a company claimed about their TV specs. Saying lag is "imperceptible"doesn’t mean much - most people don’t notice 2-3 frames of lag, which technically means they’re correct but would mean it still lags.
WHERE IS THE PROOF???
LINKS???
CITATIONS???
oh wait i forgot this thread still SUCKS
it’s not technically latency, it is input lag. latency involves the delay resulting from physical separation (i.e., playing someone in australia while you are in colorado)
I think it’s safe to say we are all speaking of the same thing. Technically, latency in itself just means the time between a trigger and its result; if you want to talk about latency in a network sense, sure you’re right; but we’re talking about TVs here, aren’t we? :razz:
Evo or not, I think actually knowing SOMETHING about these TVs and their latency would be a good start, so in a week or so I’ll see if this crimson vyper drive (see what I did there) is actually worth the hype. I actually have a friend who has one of the old ones and it seemed very good in game mode.
Update: We’re testing out the ASUS VH236H against a PS3 with HDMI. If it passes the tests we will use this model for Evo.
Wepeel: There was a test done online testing this specific TV. If I find the actual page I will post it. However this was after 1 full week of online searching. I don’t really care if you trust me because I read and saw some pictures of the test from a pretty reliable source. This benefits myself and whoever wants to take my word for it. Please note I still haven’t bought the TV.
I found it after looking through a million pages on google and searching for stuff like “TV MODEL guitar hero” “TV MODEL CRT”" TV MODEL INPUT LAG TV MODEL ROCK BAND. Im not really in the mood to look through it again.
Crackbone: Im not judging the TV by what the manufacturer has stated. Just taking the info from sources here in the forums or on the net and judging how reliable they are based on MY OWN PERSONAL valuation methods and research.
I think the fact that I still haven’t bought a TV proves that I know what im doing.
You all seem to mix up the posts from Halo scrubs with people who are actually trying to help out to get this right.
If you still haven’t done your research I started a thread very similar to this one about 2 or 3 months ago BEFORE THIS ONE because I actually care what happens at EVO.
Cano
Tests successful! Evo will be using the ASUS VH236H LCD TV for tournament stations. This is a great little TV with a bright screen and no detectable lag in our setup (PS3, HDMI). Thanks to everyone who provided information in the thread.
I’d be interested to know what Evo will use to record matches using a combination of these PS3s and these monitors.
Just curious inkblot what were the results in these test and how were they tested? I might get one
Cano
Good question. We’re working on that, too, but it will take some time. Recording, projecting, and playing matches in HD with 0 lag on the display people are playing on is obviously not a trivial problem. I’ll post here when we have a solution.
I got the 25" Hanspree monitor from best buy for $280 about, and its awesome for SF4. I have my PS3 hooked up to it thru HDMI…they have dual HDMI inputs, but no other inputs. Don’t know the exact lag specs…the box says 2ms.
It’s awesome you guys are putting so much work into this. :tup: