We started a little gaming league in colorado and started to pool the community’s money every tournament we throw to pick up new equipment for us to play on (monitors, consoles, ect). Anyways in our quest to pick up good lagless monitors we happened upon these:
ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen 16:9 Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 12000 : 1) with Built in Speakers
About $210 dollars with an hdmi cable off of the same site. We have ran 3 tournaments with these montiors so far and we have not heard any complaints. We have 4 now and plan on getting more. I personally own one and stand behind it. Great product.
A monitor with 1:1 pixel mapping is definitely a better idea that a TV, both for price and lag. Only problem is the viewing angle on TN panels… and anything else is going to be prohibitively expensive. But if they’re just for competitors to use it shouldn’t be too big a problem.
The BenQ really looks like the best recommendation thus far.
It’s 16:9, 1080P native resolution so no need to bother with 1:1 pixel mapping and the like. Input lag is nonexistent (I’ve tested it with the Rock Band 2 guitar auto-calibration feature) and the color accuracy is pretty solid for a TN panel. There’s some backlight bleeding but that shouldn’t be an issue.
its ok for casuals if you don’t mind it. However for an international tournament with over 500 participents (SP?), it won’t do. For a tournament of that scale you want the best player to win. Without any room for doubt.
I have researched this subject fairly deeply a few month ago and I also recommend the BenQ G2400WD 24" monitor. I don’t have a CRT to do accurate testing but digitalversus.com’s test results are pretty reliable.
Not directly related, but still somewhat useful info:
For Soul Calibur IV settings -
With a 1080p native TV, disable 720p and 1080i in system display in XMB to force 1080p video feed. Even on TVs where there is little to no lag, enabling 1080p mode with SC4 on 1080p native almost completely gets rid of any conversion lag. Just make sure 720p/1080i is disabled otherwise the PS3 will use those instead of 1080p.
(For 720p native ofcourse, leave it at 720p mode)
As for the HD screens itself - I use an ASUS VK246H 24 inch with HDMI on PS3 with SC4, and I had the best players in norcal/socal test it on 1080p on “standard” display mode, ASCR disabled. Played for hours for cali-regionals, nobody detected anything funny. Should be 250$ right now on newegg with free shipping. (Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 )
I use a 22in. Samsung monitor with 2ms responce time it has no lag what so ever, the graphics are beautiful and is A LOT more affortable. I got it for about $149 at Fry’s, I use an HDMI to DVI cable and use my computer speakers for sound.
You can’t even be bothered to list a model number. Do you think there’s only one type of Samsung 22" monitor?
2ms “response time” has NOTHING to do with input lag, it’s grey-to-grey pixel switching time. You know, the thing that’s been mentioned in this thread several times already.
Where’s your proof that it doesn’t lag? Oh, that’s right, you’re special and can detect and accurately measure lag in milliseconds based on your KEEN SENSES!
You couldn’t have made a worse fucking post if you tried, dumbass.
it has been discovered that there is 0% input lag on the LN55a950. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1120442
Apperently if you connect a source into the HDMI2 slot of the TV and label the source as “PC” the TV eliminates any input lag while not giving up any picture quality which is common wheh you set a TV to game mode. While i know that this TV is out of EVO’s budget, maybe those with other Samsung TV’s can try out this technique to see if it works on eliminating lag on their TV’s.
What about the TV/monitors at the National Gamestop Tournament?
I wish I was there, but what about the screens that they used for the Gamestop tournament finals? I am certain Ink has phone numbers to more than half of those that made it deep into the tournament as well as Seth’s number. I am supposing that those screens were OK.
Evo is using the PS3 version of SF4, right? It only outputs in 720p, so if 1080p displays are used they also need to be tested with a 720p input to account for scaling lag. Unless they are run with 1:1 pixel mapping… which would be a waste of a display if you ask me.