Yeah, I can’t wait to watch these when I get home. My friend is a big Necro player so he’ll enjoy these. Yes, they are all PinoAB7 matches. Which = lots of Necro video goodness. :tup:
Go back to MVC2. At least the lower tiers in 3S are competitive and actually counter some of the higher tiers. :lol:
why pinoAB7 use sa1 vs chun ??
i can’t understand this
pd: please coment my vids
What I want to know is where all the Necro players are. Nobody plays with him anymore. You would think with the way pino plays more players would start wanting to use him.
Probably cuz of how hard it is for Necro to get near Chun. Necro basically has to play a zoning game against Chun unless he gets extremely lucky and actually finds a way to get in. Characters like Yun and Yang can kinda pressure her with dive kicks because they’re real quick and can bait her c.MK real easy. Necro’s dive kick doesn’t cover quite that much distance and since it is slower is much easier for Chun to parry down and punish. Necro has a very high and slow jump as well so he can’t really try to cross her up and Chun Li’s small crouch box makes that even harder.
So in essence the only way for Necro to get in on Chun is to knock her down first. Meaning getting in close enough range where he can sweep her or throw her. This is because Necro has NO poking game against Chun. c.MK and b.HP beats out everything he has. Necro from long range only has his own c.MK as a poke. Otherwise it’s random dive kicks and hope by some miracle you get in or get a lucky sweep from a farther range. SA1 would be the better choice since Necro will be focused on keeping out of Chun Li’s attack range and then hoping he finds a way to get a knockdown so he can get within her range.
All Necro has to do with SA1 is catch her whiffing a c.MK and he can bust the super and do a lot of damage and create a knockdown situation to capitalize on. Chun can’t just sit around and battery up when one whiffed poke = 35 percent of her life bar gone. SA3 doesn’t work very well as a super by itself and against Chun Li, Necro will pretty much never get within range to utilize the super. You’ll have to play an extremely smart Necro to have a chance with SA3. I’ve seen people win against Chun using SA3 but all the matches are extremely close and Necro basically went back and forth between blocking low and doing dive kicks from a distance. Not much of an offensive from a character that’s usually known for his strong close range game. Basically, SA1 makes Necro a bit more of a threat for Chun.
Well…I thought the same thing about Ibuki (seeing she’s my favorite character) since Aruka just recently won that Ranbat but…it’s the whole thing of risk vs. reward and time investment. Overall…some people just don’t have the time to invest to learn characters like Necro and Ibuki and other lesser used characters. The lack of defense really works against them in tournament situations where making a mistake puts you at a big defecit. You’re always having to think a step ahead of the opponent and making a mistake puts you at a larger disadvantage than with some of the higher tiered characters.
One of the reasons why Necro isn’t used more is probably cuz how bad he gets beat by some of the higher tiers. Yun/Yang can dive on him all day long, Chun just destroys him, Ken gives him a hard time with cross ups/EX fireballs (although Ken really isn’t all that bad for him), Dudley being able to do so much damage off of one mistake takes advantage of Necro’s low defense real easily, Makoto is just always in his face with no real options to keep her away…it just gets bad for Necro the higher the tier he fights. Even Ibuki’s rush game is too much for him. To be competitive with Necro you really have to understand a LOT about how he works and a lot of his more damaging combos/setups require a lot of work…work that can be equaled by the higher tiers with less effort.
Now that I watched these vids (especially the Necro vs. Chun one) I see that Necro was actually able to rush Chun utilizing SA1. SA3 Necro literally can’t do shit to Chun unless he gets insanely lucky. SA1 Necro on the other hand is a whole different game for Chun Li. She can’t battery up anymore and she has to let Necro get in because whiffing a poke = u lose a lot of life. SA1 is just simply scarier for Chun than SA3.
i think sa3 is more interesting choice vs chun i see a lot of good matches of sugiyama because if you parry a chun atacks and she is very near of stun
dont like to much sa1 vs chun because this very limited ex-moves and i use to much vs chun (ex.qcb pp)
but i need more practice
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necro honestly has very little use for EX moves coreografo… his normals are so much better than any of them. granted they do come in handy at times like ex spins after a dizzy and whatnot or at an attempt for a fast high-low game in the corner but i rather much use his normals and save the meter for supers to beat an opponent, especially playing against chun…
as for pino’s choice as to play sa1, well that just comes down to pure preference. i can see why he played it, chun is at times difficult to get in on and one caught whiffed move or even a jump will spell disaster for chun with sa1. devil jin is correct in saying that you have to knock her down to fully get in on her… however that is also difficult… if chun has super, necro shouldn’t cr. rh, so there goes that knockdown. sa3 setups are also null now because you have less of a chance to get in and just throwing out the sa3 is out of the question. sa1 can give you a bit more leniency when it comes to finding openings and since it knocks down in the end, it can create that chance you’ve been waiting for to get in.
riot guard, there are necro players out there, it’s just unfortunate because we are few and far apart… i started playing necro back in 2000, 2001 and believe me i’ve asked myself that question a dozen times.
Yeah…it’s just the match for the most part turns into a turtle fest if Necro uses SA3. I’ve seen SA3 Necro vs. Chun matches that last over 4 minutes (and that’s just 2 out of 3 round fights). Chun can just simply poke him a lot more often when he uses SA3. That’s what I’ve observed any ways.
Yeah, Necro’s EX moves should almost never be used. EX hcf+P spells trouble unless you know it will end the round. Way too much recovery to spam it and better players will red parry it down meaning…you get owned out of your EX. He only has 3 moves he can EX any ways and the only ones you should really be EXing are his 2 overhead specials as a random mix up. Especially since both of those aren’t as disadvantageous on block.
i use mix ups why ex qcb pp becuase you can whiff > grab or 2 hits or one hit whit this
wakeup B+RK, cr. SK EX QCB+PP or QCB+KK or HCF+K looks way cool. The whole reason why I got into Necro.
Still…too random to use more than once in a few fights.
:sad: none of these links work anymore
Can someone re-upload the vids posted in the previous pages again? (Not on Youtube plz ^_^; and it’s OK if you’ve uploaded them as in ‘parts’).
not is random ex qcb is very good you have good advantage (3+) and you can use a lot of times for mix ups for example after a b.strong reset you can cancel intro this move if you timing is good only last hit conect and if he block this you can grab , mix up etc etc some people try parry this you can whiff this move and grab guy in corner
i never use qcb k ex move and i only use hcf p ex move if oponent are stunned
(please see shirube intro sugiyama use this mix up vs random remy guy)
vids vids vids …i try upload some vids of necro in next week
i can’t this time because i need study
excuse my bad english
^TYT, bro 
Thanks :tup: