Some good gameplay from a pretty good player, also lessons on how to troll a scrub in storm.(look in the comments section for more hilarity from the guy he beat)
Puppets seem to have a lot of potential
yeah ive been seeing a lot of rumors about a conr sequel
Getting another CoN game would be amazing, considering it’s a much more balanced game with a much more appealing base.
I mean…a Naruto game with ACTUAL COMBOS? WHAAAT?!
I feel like I’m the only one here that is willing to try and keep this thread alive with discussion rather than content.
Anyway, I’ve been playing a bunch of Storm 2, and I jumped back into Revo and noticed that it’s not just the obvious stuff that’s been nerfed.
Every character that’s lasted since Storm 2 has had nerfs done to damage, number of hits, range, chakra usage, priority, speed, functionality, homing, assist viability, stun duration, accuracy, items, and general usefulness.
Seriously though, go play Storm 2, it will make you appreciate the games before Revo much more. Everything was better, and it was harder to sub, so it made sense to use chakra. Even then, you still get hit by stuff a lot, and man it hurts. Now you can avoid things easy, and they hurt less.
Dealing with this new counter is a cakewalk compared to subbing in Storm 2.
It was harder to sub because it wasn’t a guaranteed button but it didn’t matter because people would rarely put themsevles in a position to get subbed on. Cutscene attacks, chip damage, and anything that doesn’t a cause a sub behind you ran that game. Most games ended in timeouts unless someone fucked up ROYALLY; that’s how bad the game was.
Yet, I find it more fun to play than Revo for all those reasons…this is why I think that there needs to be a total re-haul of the entire system before Naruto can be truly competitive.
Just bought Storm 1 and Blazblue: Chrono Phantasma, I’ve been playing the crap out of Storm 1. It seems to be much more an updated sequel to the Ultimate Ninja series on PS2, much more flashy and vibrant, with more assist options and three health bars.
I honestly wish the series would have retained more from Storm 1 than it actually did.
I agree, it’s been well overdue for a system overhaul but CC2 doesn’t care about making the game competitive (or a least a sensibly balanced system) which is why they continue to release broken game after broken game and why I stopped buying after UNS2.
Not being able to properly sub when you wanted to was a terrible mechanic and I’m glad it died with Generations. Along with many other issues that plagued these games before UNS3 released.
UNS3 is when the games finally started ditching all the unnecessary bullshit like that, and was a much more responsive game in general. It’s not nearly as balanced and competitively viable as Revolution is, but at least it was headed on the right track .
Revolution is the most balanced, refined, and ***de***fined iteration in the series imo. There aren’t any more 0-10 matchups like literally every other game had. Every character has a fighting chance against every character (A Groove Mecha Naruto being an obvious exception, but I expect a ban soon) and that’s the way it should be. If you’re looking for a complete system overhaul then you shouldn’t have to look any farther than Revolution, because almost every aspect of the metagame changed.
Personally I think it’s dumb to prefer the older games just because matches were more drawn-out and pragmatic. That’s boring and it defeats the very purpose of these games in the first place: which is to deliver high speed and action packed battles with a focus on outsmarting your opponent. You have plenty of time on the clock; there’s no reason you should have to play cat and mouse with your opponent for a full match just because substitution is an inconsistent mechanic. If Revolution retained more aspects from the first UNS, we’d still have ridiculously unresponsive controls, 20 characters at the most, an unreliable and FRUSTRATING sub system, and ultimate jutsu’s basically being the end of a fight whenever one is landed.
All of these aspects have been fixed for the better. They expand on the metagame and add depth.
Oh, and not to mention the 5 or 6 characters that lorded over EVERYONE in both 2 and Generations: Masked Man, Deidara, Minato, ect…
I was taking you seriously up until that.
You do understand that, regardless of CC2s actions, it has been blatanly obvious that the reason to buy anyone of these games is to kick butt as your fav Naruto character. The game is all about flashy and finishers and ‘BOOYAH, I just owned you with Rock Lee!’ If you think that CC2 cares about balancing a game when they can just make another one that you will buy (which they will, and it will only fix half the stuff while making other things worse), you’re being silly. Also, let’s not forget that this is a rather bare-bones game, more of a glimpse at what is to come. They are not gonna ban a featured character, they don’t even care about that. The best you could do is ban him on a social level, and since he is a favorite and there is no heavy in-person tournament scene, that’s not gonna stick.
That’s why I think that Storm 2 and Storm 1 are the best I’ve played. You say difficult subbing, I say you can’t mash to get out of combos; You say it’s about the strategy, I say it’s about the fan-service and flashy moves; You say that it keeps improving every version and will eventually get it right, I say that it already had it’s core down and didn’t need anything drastic and has lost a lot of what made it appealing in later versions. If CC2 REALLY wants to make a competitive scene, they need a new series dedicated to that, Naruto-verse or not. I’m talking a total re-haul, a brand new engine and dedicated to current-gen consoles, I want the works!
Also, a few more counter-arguments!
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[] You mentioned unresponsive controls, but I haven’t had any issues with Storm 1 or 2 in that regard. Once you commit to an input, you will more than likely have to stick with that and manage from there, regardless of what happens during that time or after.
[] Who cares if there are less characters? Have you noticed that a good share of the characters are exactly the same, with maybe a UJ or Ninjutsu replaced? Have you noticed that a new skin can consist of a robe or hat, and that’s all? Maybe quality over quantity wouldn’t be bad, and you could start by knocking out all the characters that really didn’t have movesets to go by via canon.
[] The only thing I’ve noticed about the old sub system that I don’t like is when I really need to sub a combo and can’t…because I’m in a panic and can’t time it right. Just improve your timing and study a character’s combo strings (all of which start out the same) and you’ll be fine. Heaven forbid you are forced to take a hit.
[] UJ’s have never been a OHKO, they just used to do a lot of damage, and rightfully so: in canon, those moves killed peeps. Now they feel so weak, and are only used when you can guarantee the damage they used to do, not whenever the moment is right.
[] Every game ever has had characters that were better than the rest, it comes with the territory. If you actually think that only Mecha-Naruto is top tier, take another look: Shisui, New Sasuke, New Naruto, New Mardara, New Obito, New Hashirama, New Minato…they are ALL much better than the rest of the cast…in fact, I think all the new characters are better than the majority of the old ones. You think Kiba could take New Minato? One flick-attack, and who cares about that dog!
[] UNS1 gave more assist variety in a way we will never see again, that being the combo choice. Sure, an attack-type can combo with you, but that’s not the same as calling them to combo your opponent as you back off and charge a Ninjutsu.
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Not to mention that I never once said anything about ‘I think it’s stupid that you enjoy newer versions for x reasons’, I’ve only ever respected your opinion while debating your statements. You seem rather knowledgeable about this series, and you seem much more dedicated to professional play than most, but that comment above just seems to me like you are butt-hurt over the past games due to memories of what they used to be like for you when you were possibly less experienced. Not throwing cream pies, I’m just saying it looks like it says ‘Throw a pie!’ on your forehead.
For the record, don’t think I’m comparing you to those who complain about something in a game that they can easily work around, like a huge portion of the Storm community. You are much better than that. I would actually love to see some gameplay from you, I think that would be amazing to watch!
I’ll play the next one when they put devil jin in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBtmBHh_yTg&list=UUSPhag9Z7Qh5sGX4GVMLusQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-DelCqIIrQ&list=UUSPhag9Z7Qh5sGX4GVMLusQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T-MzLJ3IW8&list=UUSPhag9Z7Qh5sGX4GVMLusQ
Naruto, Kushina & The 4 Edo Tensei Kages.
Why is there no activity in this thread when the patch comes out tomorrow? And it gives all the criers what they wanted?
Look at this and be pleased, over-joyed even. I’ll just sit back and wonder why it it’s not also coming with new characters.
No more 0-100 combos lol… Kinda sucks.
In Marvel 3, 0-100 combos exist. Nearly every character can perform one, and at a low-medium entry level. People get mad, but instead of crying nerf, the competitive community makes it the meta.
In Revo, 0-100 exist. They are harder to do than in Marvel 3, and require a specific drive and team. Some characters flat out can’t perform them. People get mad, but instead of figuring out how to counter this, they cry nerf.
Welp, you finally got CC2 to make a real patch Storm community! Too bad it’s on an irrelevant game on which most of the player-base has already dropped and doesn’t care about any news relevant to it and the game itself isn’t even the final version. I would bet the next one comes out 2015, and we’ll have the same issues.
Too bad they didn’t fix in-game lag, their netcode, or the BP system. Also, why won’t they release the new characters at the same time.
I will update the OP with those videos and respond to ForsakenM when I have the time. In the meantime, though…
Storm 4 has been announced for PS4.
I’m hoping it keeps a lot of the changes Revolution made. Although I’m not sure how they plan on continuing the story considering how 3 ended.
I hope too. Good thing I got a PS4
So I’ve been playing this game with a friend, and I realized just how they should do tournaments.
They should be done in Single Match, and I know I’ll get a lot of flack for this comment, but let me explain why.
The game is not nearly as challenging or fair with supports, I mean really think about it: Supports, even as dumbed down as they are now outside of Support Drive, are crazy good regardless of which characters they are. They fit whatever role they need to the moment you call upon them, at best guaranteeing a ton of damage, and at their worst they are an extra two sub-bars.
Taking out supports and playing seriously has opened my eyes to a version of this game that isn’t nearly as broken. This also takes the another balance-hammer to the cast, and truly shows us who is the best in the roster. I’ve played with characters who are amazing with a team, and had them decimated like they were low-tier trash, even while playing them at their strengths and doing nearly everything right in a match versus a character that’s just remains as good as before solo.
Playing solo also boosts your skill level, as your are required to actually block for extended periods of time, and to use your movement to it’s full extent. It requires you to do everything correctly on a level you’ll never have to go to in Team Matches.
Well, at least that’s how I feel about it.
Can’t bring myself to buy Storm Revolution. Waiting on Storm 4 and that will be the last Naruto game of that nature for me. I really don’t see how some of you didn’t get burned out on the games to the point of going back to get the older games.
Meh I hope the Edo Kages and Shisui Make It In For 4.