the real question is do any of you guys actually read the manga, or just look at the pretty pictures? theres soo much info wem already know thats being lied about cause people got shit for brains? read the shit again if you cant understand or remember how shit went.
raikage was almost as fast as 4th using hiraishin. 4th in his own speed would get merced by raikage, fact. never has 4th ever shown speed that excels besides his teleport. he was fast, but not raikage fas, unless he used hiraishin.
itachis reasons for coming to konoha have long been shown now. only a true fucking retard would say something as stupid as he and kisame fled, sorry but no help for this retard.
also minato didnt fight madara with full power. madara had already cast a genjutsu on the kyuubi, shit just happened a few chapters ago, you guys cant be that stupid. even minato hinted that madara wouldnt be able to use the kyuubi for long and would try to finish the fight quickly. during the fight madara never tried to use any moves that would need large amounts of chakra, he only tried to capture and teleport him to another dimension. do people honestly believe thats al madaras got? personally looking at 4ths words and madaras actions he needed most of his chakra for controlling the kyuubi. he got beat cause he thought a half assed versions of himself would be enough for the 4th, it wasnt.
on the itachi comment, itachi probably had the most intel on pain besides madara and konan. he was a double spy, he never even got tracked by pain cause when it rained he was always in a cave nice and dry. he knew what pain was capable of, and even if he didnt know everything about him where talking bout itachi. probably the smartest dude in the whole fucking manga. it has long been told that genjutsu requires a high intellect, and the genjutsus over a layer of genjutsu itachi was probably the greatest genjutsu user weve seen so far. itachi figuring out pain is only natural. im not one of you dumb asses that would say itachi or pain would win, cause honestly if both would fight to the death, both have an equal chance of winning. thats if we dont factor in that pain can be caught by genjutsu, cause from what i see his worst match up might be a super genjutsu user. he got caught in jiraiyas gen, those where only the pains that could hear it. itachis genjutsu hits the eyes, something all pains share. they share the same views, theres actually a chance that this is a major weakness of pain. its just not shown. so i wont even go there.
last thing, specially for the retards among us. it has long been told that sasuke has got a very strong and special chakra (dude is the fucking main character along with naruto). his eyes are special too, probably the strongest eyes since itachi and madara. somebody of his calibur broke out of itachis tsukiyomi, somebody with a very strong sharingan. fighting against an itachi that was out to lose. the small fact we do know about tsukiyomi is that only a sharingan user (preferable of equal or higher strength), or a jinchuuriki in control of his bijuu can break out of. how anybody can make the retarded ass assumption that 4th or raikage could break out of it once they look into it is beyond me. they aint naruto, who is a main character with plot armour and a bijuu. besides madara, naruto, bee and sasuke theres nobody who could break out of itachis tsukiyomi. you look, your finished.
also itachi never killed any konoha nmins besides the uchiha clan. he was a good guy, even sparing kurenai and asuma. he loves konoha, why the fuck would he want jiraiya dead? he wanted jiraiya to train naruto and save sasuke. shit aint that complicated. sometimes i wonder if im talking to some dumb ass kids or just some retarded ass adults. how could a childrens comic be soo hard to understand.
edit: naruto against pain wasnt mentioned cause naruto has already beaten pain. a half dead pain who used up most of his chakra, but he still beat him.