MVCI Bar and Lounge: Maximum Carnage Xmas Special

It seemed the people working on it from capcom were trying to create something for the community with a small budget, while marvel had a bunch of restrictions and the mcu in mind. Not too complicated

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I’m not fully blaming capcom. Marvel is the biggest culprit of all of this. It’s a possibility that the reason why Capcom hasn’t said shit about this game is because they may have signed a contract or something in where they need permission to address whatever if Marvel approves.
At the end, this game has been shitted with this corporate greed that has corrupted nearly every genre of entertainment in this generation. That is why it should not be supported. We are entertaining a bunch of asshats who care only about themselves and how our money can be taken instead of the art of making a video game/product.

So that justify the game is made out of corporate greed? like you keep insisting? because of the lack of Xmen in a game that is all centered for MCU.

So the lack of Xmen now is equivalent to corporate greed that’s dumb logic. What if the Avengers instead was lock into the pay wall while you got Wolverine, Storm and Cyclops in return?

So you mean MVCi is trash than the rest? I said CEOs not devs. CEO that funds devs, You know what CEO does that funds project right? Or you didn’t know they even exist? and your saying Capcom was an ART charitable company? Are you born yesterday?

I have literally stopped paying attention to these ridiculous walls of text aimed at each other.

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and your continuously ignoring to ELABORATE and be SPECIFIC on the thing you use to accuse Capcom and Marvel to be called greedy.

You know why because you don’t have any idea what you are even talking about your frustrations from fake leaks lead you to this.

My question:

Your answer

See you just want to accuse them greedy because they the game didn’t have XMEN? and you don’t have an idea or straight up answers on those question that I questioned a lot of times you skip because you don’t even have a idea what are those.

I have answer a lot of times why the lack of Xmen doesn’t make the game a corporate greedy. the thing is you just ignoring it because you can’t accept the facts that the character count was decent.

actually your the one that ignores just simply look in to the past comments you skip and accuse.

because you didn’t even know what should they do or you didn’t have any idea they what they should do with the game. That’s why you even twist the word art for the sake of compromising your tantrums and frustration from fake leaks.

Your the one that tries to used the term art in a inappropriate way, like Capcom Ceo develops games for the sake of art? what? Now the lack of Xmen and Doom is related to Art?

So this statement of yours justify why they shouldn’t listen to the likes of you and it is senseless to talk you. because your a whine unreasonable and no substance rather than whining and blaming because of frustration from fake leaks.

zatalcon1: (wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because they are silent
zatalcon1: (wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it’s not on evo
zatalcon1: (wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it is halfassed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it is a huge disappointment

ME: Answered, Elaborate and Explained the technicalities and consequences but ignore then asked what is his preference and idea of his accusation?

ME: What is full assed? (Mine was CVS1 for a vanilla crossover game with team mechanic)

zatalcon1: (wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (wall of text) your a fanboy

ME: What makes this half assed? (My example was vanilla SFV)

zatalcon1: (wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (wall of text) your a fanboy

ME: What is the decent character count for a vanilla retail content? (Mine was CVS1 is decent)

zatalcon1: (wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (wall of text) your a fanboy

ME: What modes should have been? (Standard is Vanilla SF4 that has standard mode present like Arcade, Versus, Online and etc)

zatalcon1: (wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (wall of text) your a fanboy

Me: Can you give me specific answers and details

zatalcon1: (wall of text) Capcom and Marvel are lying assholes
zatalcon1: (wall of text) see lack of Xmen is corporate greed
zatalcon1: (wall of text) like the good ol days that they do games for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (wall of text) They are silent because the game is corporate greed

Me: the lack of Xmen isn’t the major problem here you got the avengers not lock in the paywall so and you got decent amount of number of characters diverse from mainstream heroes like the avengers(captain america, spiderman & etc) and villains, I would agree if that would be design greedy if the likes of spidey, ironman and cap was lock into pay wall but it’s not (I even got tons of variations of answers for this)

zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) Capcom and Marvel are lying assholes
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) your a fanboy

ME: Previous fighting games isn’t done for the sake of art, that are what artist supposed to do when they are paid by those that funds their project like CEOs and corporate owners. Capcom games wasn’t a passion project or something from kickstarter or indiegogo along with my repeating answers.(I even got tons of variations of answers for this)

zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) Capcom and Marvel are lying assholes
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) past capcom game were done for the sake of art
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) no evo tournament
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) the game is full of corporate greed
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) flawed in your argument
zatalcon1: (denies facts and reality then proceed to wall of text) your a fanboy

Me: Talking about greedy game design and companies like EA, Mobile games, Freemium and Microtransaction and etc, then explaining why Capcom isn’t belong to those greedy category because the game didn’t have shady game design that lock gameplay essentials like modes and mechanics to a paywall or a random roulette. (I even got tons of variations of answers for this)

then were back in zatalcon1 loop…

zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because they are silent
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it’s not on evo
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it lack xmen
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it is halfassed
zatalcon1: (ignores and wall of text) The game is made up of corporate greed because it is a huge disappointment

Obviously he didn’t even know what things should have done in a elaborate and detailed manner and he didn’t even have an idea what would satisfy him or what are he see is standard?

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WTF corrupted every genre of entertainment in this generation? is this madness?

WAIT are we even including the music and film industry? just to throw senseless disappointments because of the frustration and hate from believing fake leakers along with cannot be satisfied preference?

Yes. The last part of the sentence explains it. It was all centered for the MCU not in line with the MVC fanbase or series. That is why when the game failed on sails they pulled all relations with it which is why the fanbase couldn’t get an evo for it and complete silence. In short they are making sure this game dies out on it’s own.

Because why aren’t they in there? Your second sentence of “what if” is stupid as hell. Who cares about what if’s. The reality is the reality. The lack of X-men is obviously because of the whole MCU which this game was all meant for. You are telling me it’s not greed to shove down another part of their media onto a longer/older series with it’s own following just so you can market more from the movie industry? Are you that blind to not see how that isn’t greed? Man you are the biggest mark i’ve seen in the internet.

PS: this answers all the rest of your 4 long posts that follow after this one so no need for me to make a huge tl;dr to entertain your circle jerking.

CEO’s, Developers… whatever you want to name. Regardless the entire direction and purpose had actual art (philosophically speaking just in case you still don’t get the term). I guess you are going to make this CEO - Devs thing a big argument now because of how silly you’ve been sounding on the defense.

You then add two more following posts of long text of crap. LMAO at your answer about the X-men and also evo and how you can’t see that as greed. You clearly have zero understanding of the term art also and i bet up till now you’ve been thinking about art to reference the visual aesthetic.

I pretty much answered the questions if you could read and comprehend normally, but i guess i should dumb down my posts now and paraphrase it for you here.

character count of the initial roster ? The count doesn’t matter (as long as it’s not too low) but it has to be even much more if this is the final product. Mode? I don’t care about modes; the standard PVP is fine, whatever modes they want to add after is up to them. But hey, we can’t even get the highest level of PVP on the biggest stage for this game for some reason? This game is half assed.

You clearly have won the title as the biggest fan of a company, in the world though. You probably have reached devout status, and this activity is the most frequent activity this board has gotten since the first few months the game came out. Good job trying to fight and defend anything that tries to smear it’s products, regardless of it being true.

No it’s still doesn’t justify corporate greed or them being lying assholes.

because you don’t have definite answer and fix preference or even known standard… all you do skip and accuse.

They are different, see you can’t even do differentiate the two? CEO doesn’t fund games for the sake of art like you keep on saying and devs didn’t work for CEO for the sake of art like you imagined. Capcom isn’t establish for the sake of art alone.

No your the one who doesn’t understand you want company to produce games for you because of just art alone? Artist do stuff for art but it’s about there personal interest and passion not charity if you want artist to serve you, you need to pay them. CEO hired artist to do art for there games that dev does and payed for ther work. MVCI isn’t a passion project to begin with.

You keep misusing the term art in gaming as a form of slavery to serve you?

If this was like those kickstarter and indiegogo projects that you fund while they said and promise something you can hate like that but this isn’t.

See you clearly exposed since have no standard and basis of what should be or should not be. You don’t understand what should have been and should not been and you just end up hating and calling the game greedy?

I bet you didn’t have any idea what game was built in corporate greed in the market? even you would point some but you can’t tell specifically why it is the same with MVCi.

Why? because you have no concrete baseline, standard, understanding and preference other than frustration and hate. All you do is generalizing thing in a wrong way.

Here we go again with ad hominem and false accusation. I’m a fan but fair enough and understand what the technicalities, but I am not absurd seeing a establish game company with a CEO funding game projects for the sake of art alone because I know the difference from passion projects and not.

Just stop being a follower of fake news to save your unnecessary rage against Capcom and Marvel.

In the end you just skip a lot of my question and denied my detailed answers.

That was hard to conclude still yet your jumping into terrible conclusion?

I even believe there was hope in the last month?

So if Capcom says they won’t continue producing stuff for the game anyway. It won’t satisfy you and you would blame them anyway and call the game corporate greed and lying assholes?

What happened was unseen circumstances and beyond control. It wasn’t by design at any means with the game so it does not have any sort of relativity with corporate greed and lying assholes.

Here a friendly advice again please just stop following fake news and blame it to other people.

zatalcon1: silence and didn’t make promises that aren’t possible = corporate greed and lying assholes
zatalcon1: noXmen even with decent character count = corporate greed and lying assholes
zatalcon1: the game isn’t a cash grab = corporate greed and lying assholes because of silence
zatalcon1: the game has standard modes complete= corporate greed and lying assholes because of silence

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These guys are single handedly keeping the MvCI forum alive. I think it’s great.

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So what are the odds of something being announced at NYCC? ( Good or bad) It’ll technically be October by then.

It does. You just are acting like a devout who is being told truth that he doesn’t want to believe or accept. You are saying that shoving down the MCU on to this older franchise that has a long time following, not greed? How is it not obvious that this shows more care was towards feeding the cash cow that is the MCU? They did not care about the culture, the history, or the community at all that is why they removed pantheonic elements such as Doom because they care more about the fucking movies. LOL at you being that stuck up in fanboyism for not seeing the obviouxs.

I do not skip. Your ramblings are all the same in it’s context that can be refuted by at most 2 paragraphs. Why would I take the time in making walls of text after walls of text. The whole lack of X-men and no Evo - this sentence alone dismantles your entire fanboy defense walls.

Ok. Then CEO. You can nitpick this because I know you want to have something to use against me. At the end, companies in general focused more on product (i’m changing the word art because this term clearly passes over your head) quality and reputation other than easy money grabs. Good job trying to explain roles regardless, but at the end the general direction for video games (this as an example) is not for the sake of quality or any form of artistic pride, but for money. That is why the “fox owned” characters -who were pantheons to this series- have been removed because if it doesn’t contribute to the cash for the MCU then it’s not included. You get it now or are you going to write another huge useless post about me getting “corporate/production” laws owned? BTW, your understanding of CEO is also completely wrong, i’m not going to shift and make this a new argument because i know that is what you want… but it is. Learn things such as Art Director, Creatives, etc etc. And just as you are typing in creating a blog about “oh you don;t know what these roles are they do this and that…” just be reminded, I am not entertaining your cop out tactic of a new topic to argue so you can safely flee from the evidence shoved up your fanboy ass.

We are. Maybe the_Shakunetsu can also explain why this board is dead and only frequent because of his #capcom4life posts.

We had hopes like this all con season. And even now at TGS, nothing.

They aren’t doing shit.

Then who are you blaming Marvel or Capcom?

Who owns you the apology? Marvel or Capcom?

You have a hard time to be specific and be detail other than echoing XMEN and Silence then lying assholes with corporate greed.

Nah you did skip. were doing loops…

So you mean the lack of xmen justify your hate and accusations? or because your believing those fake leaks.

What’s nitpicking when both are different and both isn’t working for just the sake of art like you said? Where are you in 2018?

Artist are hired by CEO to do Art, CEO hire people to like Artist to invest and business and not Art. CEo build businesses to earn money not to do stuff for art alone. Your acting dumb and it suits you.

Honestly you can’t even pinpoint which is the money grab in the game? other than saying the lack of Xmen and silence?

How can they be lying assholes like you accused when they are silent and never trick you with false promises and false hope?

You have a hard time to be specific and be detail other than echoing XMEN and Silence then lying assholes with corporate greed.

Okay I’ll believe you enough with the tantrums yes, the CEO build company and make games for the sake of art like before.

You want expansion on right? it’s easy to see through you but you get frustrated because of being gullible for continuously falling to fake leaks and blame it to Capcom or Marvel… please rather than FINDING A WAY TO HATE CAPCOM and MARVEL MORE BY MAKING THEM do a announcement that they didn’t own something which would hurt you more. Just post some balanced changes, gameplay videos, combos discoveries and character wish-list if you want a possibility on the game expansion rather than demanding closure from something you cannot even pinpoint exactly who you want to blame?

Marvel is 80% to blame… unless my assumptions of Capcom being forced to keep quite about the “why’s” because of signing an agreement is proven wrong.

The banning of fox characters is very easy to understand. There is no reason why this game had to be forced as a MCU advertisement, especially since the MVC community predates the MCU fanbase and has it’s own long living culture. We don’t deserve to be kicked to the curb all because of a business model for movies.

And no, there is no skipping. Your entire fanboyism is logically destroyed by that X-men and no evo mentioning you are just too much of a devout to understand that. Your whole understanding of the term art is fucking dumb already and no matter how many times i’ve dumbed it down, you still reply with a wall of dumb in return. Look at how you still go in depth about CEO roles just like I said first hand you would. LOL so you think i should quote every single repeated nonsense you have and just repeat the same answers that fully refute you, further extending my time and my post?

See thats what I thought as well, but now it’s been a full year since the game released. Not to mention there was a rumor of mvci shutting down in October. So I’m expecting some type of news. (good or bad).

Tbh I don’t think anything mvc related would ever be announced at TGS. Idk, it’s just been too quiet for my liking.

Lets see? Then what Marvel should do? You’ll skip this one right?

Refund? Apology? or etc? You have a hard time giving concrete and specific ideas

There is no skipping?

What? What about this loop?

I get it this portion of your comment belong to another of those because the lack of xmen and no evo right? to justify your baseless accusation and senseless tantrums?

please expand the quote below?

Summary

and this?

Lack of Xmen or silent?