I don’t need them to tell me what’s going on I need them to not make my ears bleed.
If they haven’t been mentioned by name so far then they where probably fine but when the commentary sucks to the point that it distracts from the event then they’ve got to go. This is one of the (likely many) reasons why Dennis Miller’s run doing football commentary got cut short.
So far the only reason I’ve seen for people not liking them is that they’re not James Chen or UltraDavid. Sorry they don’t want to explain every little thing that happened during the match like those two do.
Football fans know what is going on during the plays but the commentators still break down strategies and recap what is occurring. That is the PURPOSE of commentating. Hype and break down is what they are there for. Not talking about random shit, singing, screaming, or talking about swag.
Did we watch the same stream?
No no. I am was just saying in general. This stream was fine. Sorry for being out of context!
Oh okay. I agree with the singing shit though, I hate that. Every time potatohead and markman are on stream I have to mute it, it’s just bad,
Tinh/Mine is a very strong Marvel player. He’s been playing Marvel 2 for a long time, but his main issue is that he does not really travel to tournaments. Regardless, you don’t get into grand finals at a major and sending JWong into loser’s bracket (2-0 at that) by being bad or mediocre. It’s very hard to say “he should have done this and that” when, well, you’re not the guy who beat JWong. It may be right or wrong to say he should have done X and Y against JWong, but at the same time, his team and abilities put JWong into loser’s bracket.
JWong mixed it up and changed his team around a bit after realizing his She-Hulk was not going to be very affective against Tinh’s team. Maybe Tinh should have put Magneto first against Wolverine, but unfortunately, his team order wasn’t really the issue here. Wolverine was. It’s easy to say “just zone him out and never let him hit you”, but that’s pretty much easier said than done. Akuma Tatsu assist covers a lot of ground, beats all kinds of projectiles to help cover Wolverine’s weaknesses, and sets up mix up perfectly. You would essentially have to play perfectly and not Wolverine ever hit you, which we know isn’t exactly possible given how strong he is and all the mix up he can do with the right assists. Eventually you are going to get hit if you guess wrong. So you get hit. Now you’re in a combo which either leads to your character being dead or puts you into another guessing situation against Wolverine. If your character is still alive, you have to guess. Guess wrong, that character is now dead. Now your new character has to come in. Now you have to guess again. Guess wrong, same situation as before repeats until you are dead.
Wolverine is literally a coin flip character.
Before Marvel 3 top 8 was going to start (or AE? Don’t remember), Daigo was taking money matches for Marvel and AE. First to 3 for $20 or first to 5 for $50. I watched every single Marvel money match before they had to stop because finals were starting and Daigo would have to play. From what I remember, he played six or seven money matches. Won some, lost some. In case you guys don’t remember, his team is Wolv/Dante/Akuma.
The match would usually play out like this: Daigo’s Wolv gets in a hit, goes into launcher, air combo, dive kick, level 1 X-Factor, launcher, air combo, knockdown, OTG, call Akuma assist, Berserker Barrage into Berserker Barrage X. Character is dead. Next character comes in. X-Factor still active. Jam Session cross up that you have to guess. Guess wrong, X-Factor Wolverine does either enough damage to kill that character or DHC into Dante which is usually enough to kill most characters. After that, you’re down to your last character and your chances of coming back are very low because that team is up three characters with more than likely a good amount of life and you’re low on meter yourself.
That’s how Wolverine is. He is a coin flip character. Now, other characters can do similar things, but Wolverine just does it better than them. He has individual weaknesses, but they are covered with the right assists.
Getting back to JWong vs Tinh. JWong didn’t necessarily “step his game up”. JWong made an adjustment to his team by putting Storm second and Wolverine on point. Any time he got a random hit from Wolverine being Wolverine, he’d go into BnB and then snap in Phoenix. Time to guess. Guess wrong, Phoenix dead. After that, next character comes in. Guess wrong, character eats a combo and the cycle of guessing continues. JWong was also doing some weird, new Drill Claw cross up mix up as well while characters were coming in. It was a combination of the former statement and Tinh’s game just crumbling to pieces as to why JWong dominated grand finals.
Regardless of JWong vs Tinh, Wolverine is a problem. A big problem. Phoenix and Wolverine are both huge problems in this game.
Daigo’s Wolverine is quite mediocre, does he even know Wolverine has Berserker Charge? He’s hardly the standard I would use to describe good Wolverine players.
Not like there’s much of a threshold between a good and bad wolvie. He’ll be a good wolvie by next week. LOL.
That statement supports my argument, you know. :lol:
He needs to change his team, it’s not a good team for him no matter how you look at it. Dive kick into Jam Session is a neat trick but how is it anything special compared to what you can do with Tatsu or Drones? What’s the point of putting Dante into the middle and DHCing into Jackpot for that tiny amount of damage? Does he know about the DHC glitch?
More importantly, when you think of Daigo do you think of someone who goes all guns blazing with Wolverine/Akuma? You’ll more likely remember him for his incredible reading of the game, his icy cold calmness and his blocking ability. So, why is he playing Wolverine/Akuma? He should be looking at the teams of Combofiend and ChrisG, those teams have more a defensive approach and would have suited him more. Seeing him jumping back with Wolverine makes me facepalm.
the post of someone who wasnt around before sf4
He plays Wolvie/Dante/Akuma because it gets him the wins. Playing defensive in MvC3 is just dumb, since you’ll eventually get opened up and killed.
<— Dumbass that still plays Chris/Haggar
Did you even see how his team works at all? I have a feeling you probably only saw one or two matches of him on the stream. Unless you were at NCR, you’re misinformed. I didn’t see a whole lot of dive kick into Jam Session (kind weird to do that anyways unless you’re trying to protect yourself after doing a bad dive kick), and he does do the standard Tatsu and Berserker Barrage mix up like any other Best Friends team. Putting Dante as the middle character works well for that team. Did you not read and understand what I posted earlier? Typically after the first character dies, Wolverine still has X-Factor, and if he gets the mix up on the incoming character, he’ll deal enough damage or almost enough damage to kill that character thanks to X-Factor. If Wolverine doesn’t kill them, DHC into Dante will kill them in most cases. Dante with Tatsu assist actually does pretty well. He doesn’t need DHC glitch, and teams don’t need DHC glitch in order to be good. His team is actually pretty damn good and filled with bullshit. It got him top 8 at NCR, and with more practice I’m sure he’ll do pretty good at Evo as well.
Like Cryoh said, you probably don’t know Daigo very well and have only seen him play SFIV seriously. He can play almost any style, be it a patient, a defensive, or an aggressive one. In 3S, he played Ken, a predominantly rushdown character. In GGXX and GGXX#R, he played a rather aggressive Sol. In CvS2, if I recall correctly (and before he switched to an A groove team), he played C-Guile, Ken, Sagat, a team that can do a little bit of everything. In ST, he played Ryu, a character that could zone well with fireballs and also rush down. I could list other examples too from older games, but those are just off the top of my head. In SFIV he played Ryu and then switched to Yun, a predominantly rushdown and mix up character. Daigo doesn’t have one particular style.
His MvC3 team is pretty strong and really god damn stupid since it completely revolves around Wolverine forcing guessing games. In fact, his team and his team’s strategy is probably a really good team against Tokido’s team (Wolv/Sent/Phoenix) since it’s a team that essentially kills two characters for free if they don’t guess right at the right moment, leaving them with a third character without much meter.
Daigo always plays high tiers. That’s why he plays that team. It’s a good team that will win once he gets better at it. Nothing can go wrong with Wolvie and Akuma plus Dante who IMO basically beats Wolverine. His whole team has options against Phoenix and Dante/Akuma can at least contend with DP compared to the other cast.
He’s not going to play his best team at NCR, he’s saving it for EVO.
I don’t want to start an argument but rather clarify with you. I did not enjoy their commentary because of lack of detail, I did not enjoy it because of the baseless insults.
Daigo couldn’t give a shit about MvC3
I guess that’s better than not liking them because they were bias.
Idk how anyone can say “do triangles and shit” wasn’t funny.
or be dry as fuck