Well its a ranbat, so for what I know, I believe they run for 4 weeks and your position every week gives you points and at the end the money is shared based on your points. I probably missed a point or two here or there but I think you get the general idea.
And wow talk about shit getting flipped, justins in losers(although this doesn’t really mean shit since he wasn’t running his team), floe and mike ross eliminated, and clackey taking names.
I don’t know who this Combofriend is but he’s just as good as Combofiend
Honestly watching people play against clockwork is so boring, not because I think phoenix is cheap or anything, but because absolutely no one snaps her in and at this point its really getting old. Today only justin and some magneto player even attempted to snap her in.
ssssooooooo much capt america on the various streams today lol. Same with Thor.
Damn Healing Field!
Domination. Pure Domination there. Good shit, Combo.
Guess what? Combo starts snapping, clockwork stops winning. Overall very nice stream, although I wish justin had switched to his business team when it looked like he was bout to lose, woulda preferred if he got eliminated while using one of his teams.
The Phoenix/Clockw0rk hate is ridiculous.
Honestly, its quite sad to see cause I still don’t think she is as much of a problem as people make her out to be. I don’t think even pre-patch sentinel got this much hate.
Just remove her homing projectile, make her dark phoenix transformation not forced activation, but she has to transform herself into it, raise her health to 550,000 and reduce her damage significantly overall. That would balance her out I think
I think this will spawn a new way of playing her instead of relying on Dark phoenix and players will use her healing field a bit more.
Besides, clock was barely doing anything with Dark Phoenix other than traps all day.
Fucking this.
When did Thor become a popular character? Did I miss something?
Fuck no to damage nerfs.
OG Phoenix needs a buff to 620k. Dark phoenix needs to be harder to get out. Activation should be super at 5 bars AND THEN additional death with 2 bars to get her out.
Dark and regular both have to be viable. Right now Dark is way too accessible at Regular’s expense.
That was too sick for words! Oh… never mind.
The Clockw0rk hate was horribly juvenile.
Phoenix hate was a bit too much too but some of it was justified. The people who think snap == dead phoenix 100% of the time because she has paper health are just as misinformed as the phoenix haters. Normal phoenix is far from being a terrible character which, unfortunately, is still in a lot of people’s mindsets. She’s pretty slippery too; it takes a bit more effort to catch her compared to half the cast. 5 bars is also not hard to come by with all those attempts for a snapback along with the regular bombardment of attacks from both players. That window to snap phoenix in and kill her quickly shrinks with each secondNow, I do believe that snapback is still definitely the best thing to do right now against phoenix. This was perfectly demonstrated by the last to battles of the stream.
No the definitely best thing is to kill off the first 2 characters so fast that Phoenix only has 3-3.5 meter when she comes in.
Snapbacks are fine but Phoenix does have excellent mobility options and raw tag, not to mention assists.
Probably the ideal solution would be to kill off her teammates fast and then try to chip her out with supers before she can get to the floor/teleport there. Unfortunately that’s pretty hard to do.
OG phoenix is at her best when she has 5 bars because she can then dictate the pace of the match, since players are caught in a catch 22 against her at that point. OG phoenix without 5 bars has to go on the offensive because that is the only way you can build meter… which exposes all her flaws. Unfortunately building meter in this game is easier than it sounds.
The ONLY Phoenix nerf needs to be to her lvl 3 XF bonuses. She needs to have her damage and speed bonuses removed (or severely nerfed). She is nowhere near as threatening without the lvl 3 XF crutch.
You guys are trying to bring up a bunch of other shit that doesn’t matter at all. She doesn’t need a damage nerf or a health buff or whatever else you are thinking of. Her only problem is level 3 XF. How many times do you see Dark Phoenix take out entire teams without lvl 3 XF running?
It’s possible but very hard to do. The best character for this is Dormammu with his Stalking Flares but even then it’s not easy to pull off. So yeah, that says a lot.
The very fact that you have to nerf Dark Phoenix’s xfactor 3 is a testament to how EASY it is to get her out. The very fact that you see her AT ALL should be proof of how badly the character was implemented. Remove the best part about Dark Phoenix and there would be no reason to play dark phoenix. And by extension phoenix herself because NO ONE would take the risk to play OG phoenix with 420k health, not even Clockw0rk.
What people dont realize about Phoenix is that she was made to be broken. You can’t balance something that was made to be broken. Capcom told people the character would be good but they didn’t listen and figured “oh well she has super low health LOLLOLOL”. That should have been your first clue that she was going to be a playable SNK boss.
At the same time though she still has more holes than the average SNK boss and she dies in one hit. The best way to fight Phoenix is always going to be just to understand everything she is capable of and burn out her XF level 3 so you can get a chance to land a hit and kill her when she is unable to be impervious to chip and is losing health. That’s the whole reason why D.Phoenix loses health…if you’re good enough at stalling her level 3 XF you’ll be able to get through the rest as she’s losing health and isn’t super demon fast anymore.
People are just going to have to learn how to fight Phoenix. They can’t change her without completely changing the way the characters works. It’s like nerfing Rufus. No matter how much you nerf him he’s still gonna dive and he’s still gonna EX messiah and he’ll still probably win majors. Just gotta learn the matchup and learn to lame Phoenix out. It’s important to know what you can punish against her but overall fighting Phoenix is more a mindset than knowing a bunch of frames and hit boxes and specific character matchups. If you suck at handling her when she’s X Factored then there’s only so much you can do. The idea is to try to snap her in first but that’s not always going to work so you’ll just have to have your protection ready and land that one hit.
Well no one in their right mind should think snap her in==dead phoenix, that would make an extremely terrible character seeing as how you would have to build 5 bars without getting comboed once. But just because it isn’t an auto win doesn’t mean its not the most effective way of dealing with her, say what you want, but the only way phoenix’s have been defeated consistently is through snap backs. People don’t realize just how much a phoenix team sacrifices to keep her alive, they only raw tag, and as a result always lose all their red health, plus raw tagging leaves your teammate in an extremely vulenrable state, so I see no reason not to snap her in.
And I don’t mean just snapping her in before she gets 5 bars either, even when she gets the 5 bars snap her in and kill her, then snap dark phoenix back in and either kill her, chip her out, or force her to activate her lvl 1/2 x-factor. Dark phoenix is a problem, but not nearly as much of an issue when she doesn’t have x-factor, so put her in a situation where she has to activate x-factor. Yea getting that one hit on her is difficult, but for a character with that little health to be considered tournament viable, it would have to be.
As much as I hate XF3 DPhoenix, she’s fine in terms of broken-ness.
If I were to change anything it would just be the damage boost of XF3, maybe put it down to XF1 levels or something. You still die in one combo/bad guess, but she can’t just chip you out for free. The other change would be the aura colour… two Dark Phoenixes = wtf is going on.
Or you can just make a team that’s made to get rid of her. The way the game’s evolved so far, Phoenix doesn’t look like a long term problem. She’s not winning tournaments by default when she’s used so that definition extends to the fact that people have found a multitude of ways to deal with her.