MvC3: I'm Doing This For Mutantkind: The Magneto Team Thread

[r313n71355]

Zone hard… be able to convert of throws/know when to throw if someone gets turtle-y, don’t mindlessly call assists and find ways to cover for them… find TODs that are viable for your execution level… use all of the weapons in tasks arsenal, not just his arrows… just stuff I’d work on right off the bat with any new team

[iron_strider51]

Zone hard… be able to convert of throws/know when to throw if someone gets turtle-y, don’t mindlessly call assists and find ways to cover for them… find TODs that are viable for your execution level… use all of the weapons in tasks arsenal, not just his arrows… just stuff I’d work on right off the bat with any new team

Sorry im not pro with the acronyms what does TODs mean lol

[r313n71355]

touch of death… can’t remember the name of the tasky player but there was a good one at curleh 5, you’d probably learn quite a bit from just watching his gameplay

[iron_strider51]

touch of death… can’t remember the name of the tasky player but there was a good one at curleh 5, you’d probably learn quite a bit from just watching his gameplay

Pretty sure u r talking about moons, and yea I saw the swag he let loose with taskmaster,also would drones help mr masters as well as Magnus?

[r313n71355]

Ohhhh yeah it was moons!! I was just so mesmerized by his nova that I forgot about his tasky. Drones will help anyone haha

[iron_strider51]

In a side note does anyone kno what happend to fc jago???

[Ika_Zuchi_No_Kami]

Jago uses Magnus?

[o0_Jo_P_xX]

How does magneto benefit from jam session assist? Neutral game & combo wise?

[leafcolonel]

How does magneto benefit from jam session assist? Neutral game & combo wise?

Jam Session is too godlike period, you can’t go wrong with it. There are several things you can do with it:

-Million Dollars THC, The best THC in the game if your char does not have an OTG, all you need to do is make them block a stH or just do it raw with Shockwave if they have no air mobility options
-The KBeast Special, jump, air dash upwards, fly and dash around using Jam Session to approach and cross up. Personally I prefer other assists, but Jam Session is still great and you can confirm off it.

• Gives you really stupid confirms you normally can’t get solo with Magneto ie : Jump up back jH xx L Blast, stH xx L disruptor, crH xx Disruptor, confirms off raw stH. All of these confirms are not doable solo despite how good they are, but Jam session allows you to confirm off all of those, you can even use it during your ground strings on block confirms.
  -It gives you a much stronger start of the round game as Magneto. Magneto is already strong enough in the start of the round, but mashing Jam Session with his OSes make them very potent, and allows you to confirm your OSes on hit, and PUSHES THEM TO THE corner on block, I can’t stress how stupid this is, push them into the corner and get free unpushblockable tridash mixups and great momentum at the start of the round.
  -You get the classic crH/stH call Jam Session xx Repulsion after hypergrav loop in the corner reset for some dirty mixups afterward.
  -You can actually use it to make attraction useful as you attract them into Jam Session, which is a hitbox wall that you can confirm off or set up mixups with if they are on the ground.
  -It locks down for a long time giving you time to set up 1 or 2 high low mixups, you can also set up dirty left rights by hopping over the opponent during the last block of Jam Session which pushes the opponent back.
  -It helps Magneto’s Neutral Keepaway game very well. Magnetic Blasts+ Disruptor and Jam Sessions are very hard to get on in combination with Magneto’s mobility and flight, the fact that Jam Session pushes back on block is very dirty in keepaway.

If you are going to run Magneto + Dante + Missiles. I’d recommend you mess around with the order depending on the matchups, as Disruptor is just as good of an assist for Dante, and Magneto can function solo pretty well with just missiles, so you might want to run Dante first vs Morrigan, and Magneto first vs other characters.

TL;DR Everything. The extension is ending your hypergrav loops with crH/stH call Jam stS TK H hypergrav.

One question I have though, I’ve recently incorporated using stH call Jam xx Disruptor as one of my main anti airs, and it’s fucking amazing, such high priority and stH is a great anti air if you have an assist that lets you confirm off it. I have one issue though, at that specific height, not normal jump height nor superjump height but an awkward area in between I have real trouble confirming. Normally I would just use jMHxx L Blast as my main confirm off Jam and I am fairly good at it now, but that confirm does not work at that awkward height(L Blast whiffs because the opponent is too low). Any help or any ideas on how I should hit that confirm?

[r313n71355]

How does magneto benefit from jam session assist? Neutral game & combo wise?

I don’t personally use jam session, but I can tell you a few uses. Jam session is basically going to cover all vertical air space, making it a very valuable assist. Pair it with an assist that covers the horizontal approach, and you have a shell that will be good for just about any character. Additionally, it lasts long enough to make for an excellent lockdown assist, and (not sure about this at all, someone correct me if I’m wrong) I think it will eat through any projectiles it comes into contact with in the neutral game, barring supers etc. of course.

In combos, being that it has so many active frames, there are probably a variety of ways you could utilize it for extensions, but I’ll let you play around with that yourself. The important thing to know about jam session with mags is if you can ROM, you should be able to convert any stray hits from jam session, which also complements mags as a great GTFO me move, who lacks one otherwise (forcefield is ass, you can shockwave but it costs meter, etc.)

Finally, I’m pretty sure you can use jam session to set up derpmode guard breaks on incoming. Like I said before don’t quote me on any of this, I don’t know much about the assist really. I’m just going by what I’m pretty sure I’ve seen, and what I theoretically am fairly certain you could do with jam sesh.

[r313n71355]

@leafcolonel - I use ROM-like conversions for that awkward space allllllll day. Works like a charm.

If they’re in the middle of the spectrum for that odd area, control your ROM and bring them down to the appropriate height.
If they’re at the low end of the spectrum for that odd area, you can pretty much ROM normally and convert without a problem.
If they’re at the high end, you’re probably better going with a superjump conversion, like sj. S ADDF S, cr. M or sj. HS ADDF H, normal jump UF, j. HS ADDF H

[Din0]

I still think Repulsor Blast is better than Jam Session for Magneto.

It’s just attached to a shitty character.

[leafcolonel]

@leafcolonel - I use ROM-like conversions for that awkward space allllllll day. Works like a charm.

If they’re in the middle of the spectrum for that odd area, control your ROM and bring them down to the appropriate height.
If they’re at the low end of the spectrum for that odd area, you can pretty much ROM normally and convert without a problem.
If they’re at the high end, you’re probably better going with a superjump conversion, like sj. S ADDF S, cr. M or sj. HS ADDF H, normal jump UF, j. HS ADDF H

I actually found the confirm!

jHS xx L Blast works like a charm, this confirm doesn’t normally work at normal jump height due to opponents getting soft knockdowned before you can link crM or crH. But at that height it works great. I’m a fraud and still can’t ROM T_T. Need to work on that next.

[o0_Jo_P_xX]

Thanks for the info guys, deff going to start spamming jam session now! I run mag Dante drones. So it sounds like I have majority of my opponents options covered

[TMNTemps]

lol I’m finally getting on this mag/dante/drones thing too. dante combos are very satisfying when you get them down. a lot harder than they should be though.

also I might be crazy, I coulda sworn there was another mags/dante/sent video on youtube. this is the one I’ve got
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there is another one though isn’t there?

[Din0]

AceKillah made one, youtube Magnus First Class

[Din0]

I agree with the fact that Mag/drones or missiles is godtier but it also means having to play with wackbot who im not a fan off, (along with all other shitty nokia products) its not tht 50sent cant be good but damn if he gets hit he is screwed and as speaking of morridoom at CM5 chrisG ran through maryland with tht bullethell bs and sent was screwed. Is the risk of sent vs most the cast worth the reward of mag with drones is generally my conflict I wish there was a similar assist but idt there is.

Sent is ass but not as ass as everyone likes to claim since Sentinel comebacks are on the rise and Sentinel is starting to prove himself as a real character. Magneto/Sentinel teams are structured so it’s front heavy. The only 1v1 matchups that I personally feel are ridiculously one sided are Morrigan, Wesker, and Deadpool(okay I dunno about Deadpool but I don’t know how to fight him with Sentinel at all).

[Ika_Zuchi_No_Kami]

I might make a quick Mag/Dante/Sent video with AAA.

[TMNTemps]

I agree with the fact that Mag/drones or missiles is godtier but it also means having to play with wackbot who im not a fan off, (along with all other shitty nokia products) its not tht 50sent cant be good but damn if he gets hit he is screwed and as speaking of morridoom at CM5 chrisG ran through maryland with tht bullethell bs and sent was screwed. Is the risk of sent vs most the cast worth the reward of mag with drones is generally my conflict I wish there was a similar assist but idt there is.

keep on it w/sent you’d be surprised what he can do long term. only assist that is somewhat similar imo is Bolts but I’d rather have anchor Sent 9 times out of 10

every match feels impossible with him at first but once you start accumulating matchup knowledge and get your air-to-air and air-to-ground footsies going he becomes a monster. and if you have XF3 stocked up with just one meter you get to play pretty much 1v1 even vs a full team because any attempt at calling an assist from them lets you kill their assist safely

[xXavierx]

Thoughts on Mag anchor to back up the Spencer / Vergil shell?