@onemic that team sounds a lot better since you got a fast beam behind both spidey and dante not to mention jam session helpin spiderman control the fireball neutral
But then there’s no strider anchor and vajra assist D: Spidey/Dante/Hiryu would be godlike
What about magneto akuma? I was set on playing a magneto/dante/akuma team a while back but I believe I posted the team in the dante forums and they were like magnus akuma isn’t the way forward. I took their words for it and decided to focus on other things, but recently I’ve been thinking maybe no one respects magnus/tatsu cause barely anyone uses it(or maybe its the other way around, God knows), I was watching the big two last night and I saw rayray doing some dirty things with magnus and ryu’s tatsu so I decided id ask the magneto players what they thought of the pairing? Im probably not gonna play it at the end of the day, but id really like to know why people don’t think this pairing would work anymore? I mean it was amazing in vanilla, why not in ultimate?
Akuma’s tatsu assist is a bit like missiles or drones - it’ll go good with anyone. Some of the mags in this forum were actually just recently discussing how scarcely utilized that assist seems to be in the community. Mags Dante Akuma would work out fine, especially if you’re using jam sesh for dat vertical coverage.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, I was a little worried I might have been lying to myself, but ill stick with the team.
Magneto/Akuma works fine, I’m not a fan of Dante/Akuma in Ultimate now though.
Really? How come?
New magnus main here, I have read a few pages and alot of ppl have the same assist ideas. All great but can ppl name some useful assist without mentioning the same 3-6 charaters? Im wondering if felicia’s rolling buckler assist makes an unblockable setup for magnus and there are other potential assist tht could do the same. Also I wonder if novas centurion rush or nova strike help magnus at all. Nova strike sets up a wall bounce (something not instinctively in his arsenal). Also I have a huge dilemma because there are just some things that really will help magnus and figuring out what are the two most important is tough. Im going to go ahead and put otg assist at A1 it helps everyone but with all of mags combo potential and air shenanigans it makes him lethal (but i dont see top mag players using an otg assist I wonder why?) Everyone loves drones and I have seen thanks to players like fanatic and rayray why but are there any other really good lockdown assists, whackbot really is low health and im wondering if ammy or even haggar could fill a similar role. And overall what are some “underground” assist that will help us magnus players break the proven mold of mag, sent +1?
Try Dr. Strange with the Eye of Agamotto assist. Combine that with repulsion and attraction and you can create some disgusting mix-up situations. I actually play Felicia/Strange/Magneto as a secondary team, but I use Sand Splash assist with Felix so I can OTG into Magnetic Tempest or to extend my palm loops with Strange.
Thanks tht was a different suggestion, do u know if rolling buckler actually sets up and unblockable for mags? does anybody else?
Not quite sure with Magneto. I’ve used rolling buckler with Morrigan and have achieved some unblockable situations.
The issue with OTG assists for Magneto, is that Magneto does not even need OTGs in his combos and can extend with half the assists in the game regardless. If you choose to play an OTG assist you get easier combo extensions but will still deal the same damage, but you lose an important assist for him in neutral. So the answer is, don’t use OTG assists as they provide nothing of any value to Magneto as he can extend fine with a lot of assists.
Rolling buckler will give him unblockable setups which are useful for resetting post throws, Mayho has vids of unblockable setups using Samurai Edge. The unblockable setups are nice, but you are better off using a neutral assist or an assist that helps you lockdown characters in neutral so they can’t chicken block.
Although EoA is a very good assist for Magneto, you might as well use Bolts if you are running strange, it’s far superior and gives him better mixups in neutral and it gives him free grab setups and high/low setups.
For some underused but godlike assists for Magneto try: Bolts, Repulsar Blast or Unibeam, Weasel Shot or Jam Session, Akuma Tatsu(it’s underused in Ultimate tbh), Low Voltage, Lightning Legs, Spencer Slant Shot, Lariat, Hawk/Task arrows, Log Trap, Rising Fang, Plasma Beam, Arthur Daggers.
My top assists for Magneto would be: Drones, Missiles, Jam Session, Tatsu, Cold Star, Bolts, Log Trap, (Rising Fang is also very godlike, but it requires you to play Iron Fist, it’s very fast and destroys projectiles and is very high priority with a great confirm ability, it just comes with a shitty character)
Thanks, and im finding the more I break into the intermediate to advanced combos magnus doesint need the otg cuz if u let the opponent hit the ground chances are tht means its shockwave or gravity squeeze thats coming next. Im interested in the repulsar and bolts, I understand strange but what can stark do for the master of magnetism???
Yeah, a general tip is unless your character absolutely requires an OTG to do essential stuff (ie Ryu requiring an OTG assist to get anything off his air grabs), you really don’t need an OTG assist for your character, it will slow down your execution with your character and teach you to do lazy bnbs.
For what Repulsar can do, just watch videos of Joker who has plenty of footage at T13 and Canada Cup and on the Edmonton gamers channel. Joker plays Magneto/Iron Man/Drones and he uses Repulsar blast wonderfully for zoning and keeping characters out as it works as a great anti air and has great durability, it helps cover Magneto’s zoning and pressure, it gives you some mixups and even crossup mixups on incoming, plus it extends combos with pretty nice damage. Joker and Dino can probably clarify more on how good it is since I don’t know much about it.
So, I’m still looking for a 2nd char for my Magneto/Sentinel shell. I’ve been using doom but, having 2 subpar anchors even though they aren’t ass, they still arent I would say “optimal”. So maybe instead of doom I could use another character, like Dormammu. I don’t really like dante in that team to be honest. How does Dormammu go with that shell?
Converting is a major pain in the ass + Tatsu lowers Dante’s ass damage down to shit.
Yeah that team works just fine, it won’t be as good as it would be with Doom instead of Sentinel since your Dorm won’t be able to control the screen as well but it’s definitely good.
Honestly I think doom would work, I mean you running a really good point with 2 of the top 3 assists in the game, then once he dies you have a solid point with probably his best assist, once doom dies you have anchor sentinel, he isn’t dark vergil by any means, but he gets the job done. You could go with dorm I guess, but from my point of view you lose the assist for a slightly better point and arguably just as bad anchor(Im not a fan of dorm anchor, not anymore at least). I think if your looking for optimization it scarsely gets magnus/doom/sent in my honest opinion. It can be played in almost any order with almost any of the characters on point so your not stuck in one of those awkward positions after a DHC where your looking for the first chance to tag out whoever is on point.
yeah I will still use Doom. Maybe I just need to adjust my battle plan with them. Also, should I use Hyper grav for assist for Doom? or just keep disruptor? because HG is mostly for doom point combos.
I don’t know any one who would argue that Doom/Sent are better runback characters than Dormammu. I’m not a big fan of Dorm anchor only because his assists are meh but his competency as an XF3 runback character is phenomenal.
Alright guys I’m starting to get the hang of the game better nowadays and I’m playing more complex and optimized point Magneto teams. One of them being Magneto/Vergil/Doom. I’m not trying to replace Sentinel but instead I’m going for a different archetype ya know? With Mags and Vergil taking advantage of missiles assist in combos as well as how good the team can be in any order I find a lot easier kill setups than with my main team.
Right now though I’m still working with Mag/Dante/Drones-Missiles so that I can learn more match ups with the Sparda Bros. Another thing is that I’m trying to do more optimized combos with Vergil and that’s only a click away to his sub forums. Any tips and advice is greatly appreciated.
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