Sounds like you need Vergil. Give in to the derp.
Thanks guys, especially leafcolonel.
I realized I actually do use Akuma as the second char when I pick him (I liked him as the anchor against Phoenix players before I started using Doom). I think I’ll put him in there and as soon as I get Magneto on some competitive level, I might start to get into Dorm.
No DMC bros for me
I’ve been watching the ECT archives and keep noticing the gross amount of assist sniping and happy birthdays. I almost feel tempted to run faster assists like tatsu/plasma beam because there are so many situations where drones/missiles get punished. Thoughts?
Call assist offscreen > dash-in, proffit.
After watching Aliounes midscreen hypergrav video I started using Jam Session to extend combos. You can do Jamsession after a stS midscreen(think of one of the relaunch loops if you are too far from the corner) sj hypergrav into Tempest, you can also use it in the corner post hypergrab loops with crH/stH+Jam Session into S jump cancel hypergrav into tempest.
Vergil Says Hi… no seriously Vergil is retarded with this team
any magneto touch dhc’ing into vergil is AT LEAST 900k (i’ve hit 1.1 mil off of a THROW being meter neutral, raw shockwave DHC swords teleport on hit is an easy 600k for 2 bars if you catch someone trying to be cute, and if they block it, they have to deal with atleast 1 round trip mixup and 1 disrupter mixup. Devil Trigger vergil is really derp too, though using the meters you build for swords will be better in the long run.
Dante/Vergil/Magneto is seriously the most fun I’ve had playing this game. (not counting vanilla DHC glitching)
Since you’re so confident in Mags + Jam Session, I’m curious to hear why that’s better than Dante + Disruptor.
Dante/Magneto/Ammy would be better than Magneto/Dante/Ammy, no? Right now I play Mags Doom Ammy but I’ve been maining dante since vanilla, so yeah im really curious.
I agree with you 100% that Dante + Disruptor >>> Mags+ Jam Session. The really stupid left/rights Dante can setup with Disruptor makes it all worth it. It’s just that I run Mags/Task/Dante, and Task benefits a whole lot more from Jam Session than most of the cast and I enjoy playing Magneto on point so I main that team in that order. The other order I run it in is Task/Dante/Magneto because of how much Dante gets out of that assist over how much Magneto gets from Jam Session
It’s not easy to rate assists and orders in their own without taking in consideration the 3rd char, if you are going to run Magneto/Dante/Ammy, a lot of the lockdown for mixup setups you can do with Cold Star are better than Jam Session, and it’s easier to convert off Cold Star, Magneto can also THC better with Ammy than Dante does with Ammy, so Dante/Mags/Ammy would be the more appropriate order in terms of synergy. If you have a teleport character, Disruptor is generally your best option for derp. They are both very good characters with great assists, so it all depends on team context I guess, would you run Dante/Magneto/sent or Magneto/Sent/Dante? Dante-Jam Session/Magneto-Disruptor is a very strong shell to tag into any team really.
There’s a few teams that should never have one point character because the other charaters get as many goodies for being on point as the default point character, my team is one of them. Jill/Mag/Sent can be used in any order, and yes… Mag/Jill gives Sentinal a lot of cover, good conversions, and higher damage output. I get conversions off Sentinel’s command grab and his regular grabs from MIDSCREEN as long as jill is still alive. I even have the option to change my assist which changes my playstyle, giving my team the ability to adept to my opponents bullshit.
Anyway…
What does Mag get from Jam Session? hmm… I know he gets an OS at the start of the match and safe anti air converisons( instead of jumping into a FOOTDIVE you can use jam session making it safe to anti air Doom). You can also lock your opponent down in the corner, hell…you probably can punish someone for using air reset since AR’s give you the ability to call assist at any height. I’m gonna test that shit out and see if I can counter air resets with jam session, to the lab!
you could unless they sj forward before jam session pushes them back
you can punish champ’s air reset into a full combo if he does anything after the blocked j.S. testing on Viper now
Okay I’m back again trying to figure out a good team. I’ve been avoiding dropping Chun but I just can’t stick with her anymore. I played around with X-23 and Wolverine which didn’t work out so now I’m here xD
The one requirement is that I must have Storm on the team. So basically I need to find my anchor/assist character. I was fooling around a bit with Sentinel for a Fanatiq team but he’s just wrong for me. So here’s some possible teams I came up with, if anyone has thoughts about them I’d appreciate hearing them.
Mag/Storm/Ammy - (Good for mixups, not so-great for neutral game, bad damage scaling)
Mag/Storm/Dorm - (Dorm is a strong character and a pretty good anchor but I think he probably needs meter to be effective and Storm would probably use it all up)
Mag/Storm/Akuma - (Basically my current team with Magneto instead of Chun. The problem I’m having is that I just don’t find Akuma to be that great assist that is enough for a team on its own anymore. It eats through some projectiles but not others. If I try to play against any decent lame player then Akuma assist just isn’t enough to get in. And half the time he gets hit out of the assist anyways.)
Mag/Storm/Doom - (Missiles assist. I can see how this works for Magneto but I’m not too sure about Storm. And I’m not very confident in Doom as an anchor.)
Mag/Storm/Trish - (Peekaboo assist. Provides the same coverage as Dorm assist but with more opportunity to capitalize off it. Doesn’t help much against lame play though)
Mag/Storm/Hawkeye
Mag/Storm/Taskmaster
Mag/Storm/RR - (Not sure if there is enough durability on RR’s assist against lame stuff. Otherwise it’s good. Not sure about him on anchor.)
I’m open to suggestions if anyone knows of some other good teams for this duo. I’d prefer not running anyone from the trenchcoat trio though.
What are the cheapest teams involving Magneto and Doom? Those two are my favorite characters but the third character is a problem. I play Mags/Doom/Ammy at the moment but I’m not very confident in my Ammy. Sentinel I don’t really like and Dorm seems very hard to use properly. Any other cheap options?
Pretty much.
If you actually like playing Doom and putting him to work, Magneto/Doom/Ammy.
If you just want to abuse Hidden Missiles, Magneto/Dormammu/Doom or Magneto/Vergil/Doom.
Some stuff I do with dat Estaka
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Im starting to feel dumb for not playing jill now