MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

And what’s Joe doing during all of this? Crouch blocking? I usually call Tron to negate a track ball, then super jump, then double jump, then triple jump, then do Air Joe to slow my descent. I’m in the air for years. I can also do :h:-Red Hot Kick from the peak of this jump to put myself across the screen if need be.

I worded my post badly; when I said “deals” with I meant "runs away forever trying to timer scam.

Indeed. The best team is actually Iron Man/Doctor Doom/Phoenix. :stuck_out_tongue:

if you ask me i think JOE is underrated, the slow special and his overhead are lethal(though i think without the tron assist hes almost useless), flashmetroid is very good with him and would like to see him in a tournament.

but as far as the tiers go, amaterasu and dante(watch isedelica vids) imo are seperated from the rest in my opinion because of their vast number of possibilites(ammy being so low to the ground, her special hitting everywhere and her ability to play any role effectively)

Oh really, too? (very much am a Storm player)

I very much would like to see this, so that I can mimic it :slight_smile:

Dark Phoenix.

fixed :lol:

I’m not sure anyones found the perfect team yet or if their is a perfect team. Mss team has real issues with low life all can be killed with I would say I’m more afraid of a team with wesker on it vs storm. The dhc trick is nice but really tourney standing don’t highly favor people using teams that rely on the dhc trick. Stroms normals are a bit to slow and no teleport and her damage by her self is meh. She’s high but I wouldn’t put her on the same level as Ammy Mag Dante or wesker.

As for Joe yeah flash is good with him however his normals are bad let’s just get over it they are bad. His damage while flashy is not very good and he really needs to work hard to get in I would say he’s under used but not under rated. I think alot of the players who use him who are decent get results because it’s so hard to find someone half way decent playing Joe that not alot of people know the match up.

Storm’s whole deal is synergy. And if she is standing next to you that’s it. You will get hit. Her high/low mix-ups are just stupid good with instant overhead. That’s why her damage is low, but DHC glitch negates that. Before that she was a poor man’s Magneto, but now they stand on equal footing.

MSS is the best team currently, next 6 months or so who knows, but right now they are even more deadly than they where in mvc2.

With that said it’s quite a boring team for the most part. Unless you really like the characters ( which I do and still can’t enjoy the team) it’s one of the few teams that 1 touch and 2 bar from any character on point will equal a dead point or assist, or seriously cripple.

The team also cooks assist, call your assist out at the wrong time and gg assist. Mag combo’s into dhc anyone is gg. Storm hailx2 and or dhc, sent…well we know what sent does.

X factor lvl 3 on any of these characters allows for a strong possibility of a come back. Stronger than most of the cast

Fighting wesker is annoying but little more than that. Ammy is more of a threat. Wesker is good, but he does nothing for a team, he requires you to build around him. He’s kind of like Phoenix in that regard…

Ammy magneto Phoenix on a team is far less scary than MSS. Even tho people will generally agree that ammy mag and phoenix are stronger characters then sent and storm.

Characters that I feel are underrated are Viewtiful Joe, M.O.D.O.K, Thor, Super Skrull, Hsien-Ko, Felicia, Haggar, Spider-Man, and Arthur, so many people are not going to use them very much, so I don’t think juice for these characters won’t be found for a while.

Accept for unblockables, combo extends to connect supers you couldn’t otherwise, a somewhat safe DHC option, DHC trick, and a good XF comeback character when all goes wrong.

Unblockables are pretty situational for the most part. Your right wesker extends combo’s… He has no dhc trick that I know of. His xfactor is pretty nice

Like I said you have to build around wesker for him to shine. He’s A tier for sure tho, one on one I don’t think he really has a problem with anyone

You just DHC in to his counter and then followup with a combo of choice, damn good user of DHC trick

He can start the DHC trick off his command grab then canceling into counter super then DHCing to something like Wolvie’s power up. I dont know how practical it really is since Wesker does so little damage before DHCing out but its there none the less.

Overall I dont like him as anchor. It seems to me you can basically run away from him once you get off the ground.

That’s mad situational, how many supers pop people high enough and allow them to free fall to the ground. Also is that really a dhc glitch? I think y’all are mistaken. Although I very well could be the one wrong.

Edit: severin thanks

Yes he can abuse the DHC glitch, trag has video examples and people have been doing it in matches. In fact, I believe he’s the only one who can do the glitch after an air throw.

He does a lot for the team when he kills the other team solo, with his broken overpowered ass.

So if the mss team is so good why haven’t the tourney results reflected this.

@ Dark Phx: Wesky can do it both ways. If you DHC into his counter you have time to then dash up s Shot them as an OTG and combo just like you would if you landed cobra strike. Or he can start the DHC trick with the grab thing.

I dont think there have been enough tourney results to really say anything about teams. I mean it was a mixed bag at FR which was what the first Marvel major. I can see MSS being really good best I dont know about that but up there yes.

Guess it was a typo. Shrug

The DHC trick pops people up in the same animation no matter which super was used, as long as you do the trick. Then Wesker recovers from the counter and pops them up with gun 2M H combo and kills. Check out the latest Yipes matches- This kills any character.