He can open people up with his crossup tri L, he has a VERY UNDERRATED air game, a decent projectile (not excellent, just decent and it adds to his air game) , he hits extremely hard, two decent assists, highest health in the game which forces X-Factor consumption earlier to finish him off and can end the DHC Glitch which with Thor is almost 100% a dead character.
Thor is definitely better than Hulk and Skrull. MODOK is better than Thor but both of them are Mid. Still debating whether Hulk belongs in Mid or Lower Mid. Great punisher and insane non DHC Glitch damage but his offense outside punishment is limited, but the fact that he has second best health, a top tier super in Gamma Crush and that the game system overall isn’t good for defense actually helps Hulk and gives him more of a chance than what realistically he should have. He is also, a very good assist killer and Wave and AA assist are decent. Very tough to place Hulk in this game. If he could open people up as easily as Thor, it would be clearer.
Not sold on Skrull. He is too unsafe, ass assists and just like Hulk, relies more on punishment than opening people up. Nice damage but his cons are an issue. IMO, Skrull is Lower Mid.
Thor’s certainly not tops, but he doesn’t belong anywhere near the bottom.
Imo he’s better than Cap, Hsien Ko, Chris, Haggar, Tron, Morrigan, Ryu, Chun, Hulk, Skrull, Iron Man (yes, Thor is the best Avenger), Jill, Shuma, Spider Man, V.Joe and Arthur
So that would put him firmly in the mid tier range. Most people still can’t play him for shit though.
Thor just needs some tweaks before the character could be a threat to the cast in higher levels of play. For now Thor is still kind of better than a lot of people think.
The best part about Thor is probably that he can put you in near inescapable air tech resets after the first 50 percent. Either way 50 percent damage without XF or assists is meh damage in this game when Dante can build 2 or more meters for a combo off any ground. Allowing him to do over 1
He def isn’t. Spiderman just lookin at his design is better. Amazing mobility, better buttons, can open up people more consistently, can actually get in consistently. Thor is scary when you are in certain situations but it takes work to put you in those spots. Spidey is much more solid all around.
The best part about Thor is probably that he can put you in near inescapable air tech resets after the first 50 percent. Either way 50 percent damage without XF or assists is meh damage in this game when Dante can build 2 or more meters for a combo off any ground hit. Allowing him to do over 1 million damage anytime he hits you from the start of the round. Without DHC glitch Dante+Trish have DHC combinations after his combos that kill off the entire cast. Thor’s ability to put you in a shitty situation that you likely will have trouble even air throw teching out of…is really strong but you can just kill somebody with Zero or Dante instead.
I play against my brother’s Zero/Captain/Felicia team and basically you either lose all your life whenever Zero touches you (Zero can TOD anyone up to 1.1 million health by himself plus an assist and spend 2 meters by himself plus assist to kill anyone else), Captain America can take away 700k before DHCing into Zero or Felicia which will definitely take off at least 900 k or both, Felicia can do up to 1 million k easy with her level 3 and build back another meter with her ability to OTG off her level 3 and both Captain America and Felicia basically should just turn on XF2/3 whenever they hit you because they both have multiple infinites in XF2/3.
If you get out of a combo situation with only taking 50 percent damage…that’s a good thing now. These days you just die by XF1 Wolverine and Dante doing 35 special moves in a combo. When people stop being lazy it’ll be Zero touching you with any bullshit that auto corrects his sword 10 times into TOD’s.
God there’s some dumbass characters in this game. That’s why it’s fun though.
I dunno, I play him a lot and he seems to get his damage in a lot better than the above characters. His air game is really good. Mighty Strike is practically uncontestable. He can end the DHC glitch and kill anyone in the game for no meter. He has one of the best tri-jumps in the game along with a beastly command grab he can implement into his mixups. His resets basically mean instant death to anyone without using meter (though I don’t think his game should revolve around them). The fact that his resets also start with a command grab means they can’t be tech’d, unlike Wesker’s.
Iron Man is still complete ass as far as I’m concerned (and yes, I play him too), so don’t take my comment as me thinking Thor is amazing or anything. Tron even more so; I can’t see how people can argue that she’s viable on point even with assists. She really is that horrible, even with her million damage combos. Ditto for Haggar
Chris is a zoner in a game where zoning sucks unless you’re already an amazing rushdown character who also happens to have been given the best projectile in the game.
Spiderman is still completely unproven, and I’ve yet to see anyone tear it up consistently with him, even Evil Rashaan (sp?).
I still think Thor loses horribly to the top tier though.
Spidey is better than Thor, better options and the web throw for unscaled damage and he has some really good mix ups and cross ups with his web swing and web zip shenanigans. His execution is harder due to RDP motion for webswing. That shit is messed up.
Thor just doesn’t seem cheap enough to fight the top tier. His ground normals are very slow start up and non of them are rapid fire, they generally dont have super scary hit boxes or anything outside of his j.H. He seems like a character that could bully around some of the mid/low tier but he just doesn’t seem cheap enough and doesn’t get across the screen fast enough yet for me to really worry about.
I definitely think Tron with assists on point is better than Haggar with assists. Haggar on point in general is just one of the biggest trashes in the game and I dont see it getting much better. He’s supposed to be there for the 60 frame invincible durp assist and maybe help clean up against one character.
Chris needs like Jam Session and Hidden Missles assist just to even have a chance in this game. His offense can’t really match other characters well since he’s not very good at attacking in a horizontal direction in the air.
I still dont understand why people have trouble with RDP motions. It’s just a shoryuken motion you just do it the other way. If you can do a shoryuken on both sides of the screen there’s nothing that should stop you from doing an RDP. Just pretend your character is on the other side of the screen. My brother can consistently tiger knee RDP motions so Tron can get plus 1 block drills…
i think the problem people have with rdp and regular dp motions is that they are UNINTUITIVE, and that they are just hard as fuck to just be doing in a neutral game situation… in combos im completely fine with rdp and regular dp even for moves that SHOULD NOT have dp motions… but the rdp motion for tron is just SOOO uninituitve at neutral… my god. it should be a half circle a quarter circle OR a regular dp… rdp on forward advancing moves is just so bad imho.
same reason why i cant get thor into my head… just so fucking unituitive to do an rdp in the air after jumping forward.
its like rubbing your tummy and patting your head while doing a sobriety check.
I have no problem with them but I do have a problem on them with moves that move you forward. Tron’s drill and Spidey’s webswing is annoying as hell. Can do them but in combos misread my input as half circle motions. So that annoys me badly.
i thought i was theonly one that did this lol… i do it for combos as well, like learning ironmans fly/unfly combo i just tricked myself into thinking i was doing cr.l, cr.m xx fireball to get ironmans jumping m, D+h unfly combo to come out.
The hardest part about this game executionally for me is that holding forward when you want to do a qcf motion will get you a DP motion. The game saves the last input you did before starting a motion for a long time. This can literally kill X23 sometimes because her talon attack air moves are qcf but she can also do a DP in the air which is mostly useless outside of trying to set someone up into a reset or if you know you dont have any air normals that will otherwise outprioritize their air game.
Maybe RDP’s are like a dyslexic thing (you’re doing the exact same motion as a shoryuken…) for people but compared to like Geese’s pretzel motion supers in SNK games that shit is bitch.