I have to ask why you think Spiderman Sentinel Doom is a high tier team? I’m only assuming you mean with drones and missiles correct?
i wonder how zero/haggar/phoenix work? I’ve been a Zero/sent/haggar player, it’s tough capitalizing off haggar with zero, but then again maybe i just need to discover some things.
neh… i don’t have much back up for me to convince myself that dorm is A tier. That’s not an understatement btw. You see, i believe Tron is rightfully A tier, she provides allot of things to the team. With a powerful assist and can also get the job done on point; Good vitality, excellent hitboxes for combo strings, and also good damage. I love dormammu, and i love his gameplay but i’ve seen these characters (in the a tier) in more/do more in tournaments.
S++
-X-Factor
This is just my personal opinion based on what I’ve seen since release, take from it what you will.
{S++} Dark Phoenix
{S} Wolverine
{A} Magneto, Wesker, Zero, Dante, Dormammu, Taskmaster, Amaterasu
{B} Storm, She Hulk, Spencer, Sentinel, Tron Bonne, Doctor Doom, Trish
{C} C. Viper, MODOK, Akuma, Shuma Gorath, Phoenix
{D} Chris, Felicia, X-23, Chun-Li, Deadpool, Haggar, Ryu, Hulk, Thor
{E} Spider Man, Iron Man, Jill, Morrigan, Viewtiful Joe, Captain America
{F} Hsien Ko, Arthur
Aside from regularly appearing in grand finals of majors?
Yeah.
I think that team is severely overrated. Everyone is just free to Haggar assist on the WC for some reason. It gimps the fuck out of Dante too.
spiderman/sent charge drones/doom missiles never gets a hit to convert on his awsum combo though :[
wolv/xx/phoenix is better than dante/haggar/phoenix just because of wolverine’s ability to kill 2 chars with an xf lv 1 and low meter usage. dante hasn’t shown to use xf early to the same effect. All assists can be countered also, so haggar lariat isn’t a cure all and even might have bad MUs vs Wolverine, Ammy, etc.
appearing in grand finals, majors, and tournaments is a basis for the tier construction. Everyone else has also experimented and experienced these characters, and its with out a doubt that these characters have shined and have valid proof of their potential (through those finals). How can we construct a tier list with out finals and majors as a reference? That’s like saying, “wolvie isn’t S tier, it doesn’t matter about what happens in the majors because my wolvie friends and the majority of kids online get owned, so wolvie is not S tier”.
I’ve listed the tiers 6 characters each…
ALL the top characters can kill 2 chars, and most of them don’t have to waste xfc 1 to do it! If Dante hasn’t shown to use xfc early…THATS A GOOD THING!
Wait wait, I just read your last sentence and now why am I even responding to you. Yup Haggar assist gets blown up by wolverine 
I swear, phoenix wins one weekend of tournaments and all of a sudden wolverine/phoenix is some OP terror. This board contains the most unimaginative lemmings it’s ridiculous.
And Dante/Mag/Wesker isn’t close to being a top 2 team. That’s 3 point characters on one team, and that only gets you so far.
I find it really funny no one is talking about Fanatiq’s team, or storm’s role on a team at all. Storm is by far the most underrated character right now. By far.
Er, yes. What I was getting at is that Dormammu has appeared in the grand finals of more majors than Dante, Wesker, Zero, Tron, Doom, or, Taskmaster, and has won at least one major, which is not true of Magneto, Zero, or Doom. Not to mention being in the top 8 of like every tournament ever, despite not being that popular.
does wolverine not blow up haggar assist? well okay. cL goes under, although haggar does beat dives and close b.slashes, I mean, it’s definitely possible for smaller characters to get around haggar than larger characters.
@ other point, I’m just saying that math supports Wolverine’s efficiency: Kill 1 character with 1 meter and lv 1 xfc, possibly kill second character with the second half of lv 1 xfc and another meter. this strategy plays on the strong mixup after snap/kill on an incoming character. obviously it’s not 100% but it has been successful in recent big tournaments.
Dante combos are more powerful than Wolverine’s but the better ones require 2 assist, or dhcs. It’s possible that he could be played like Wolverine and only burn lv 1 xfc and minimal meter per character, but then that might mean that his combos end up longer than wolverine’s so he has less xf time.
im not saying Zero is S-Tier buts hes good as shit and is a problem for like 90% of the cast
I don’t believe you. The reason why Dante/Haggar/Phoenix works so well is the fact that Dante can do certain loops and otg combo extenders while hitstun proration is high. While the meter gain you get from combos off of Haggar is very high, the damage Dante gets is not high enough to make just any team with the combination into a top tier team. You pretty much have to stick Phoenix at the end.
If you put a character who can continue a DHC trick, you might have a decent team. The problem of low damage will be mitigated and you will most likely build a lot of meter off easy counter hits, combo punishes and left/right incoming mix ups. However, once Dante is gone, you’ll be left with some character and Haggar and your damage off Haggar’s assist will once again be low and in addition to that, you will have fairly limited options for DHCs. Not to mention you’ll have to play Haggar as an anchor.
Basically, only Phoenix can make full use of the Dante/Haggar combination.
I agree. I’m having fun learning her and even more fun finding ways to DHC Glitch into Spiderman with her. Makes for interesting team chemistry.
Even having drones and missiles, that team (spiderman/sent/doom) is not a top tier team at ALL. Hell as far as spiderman is concerned that team is horrible. Spiderman gets his web throw combos sure but that’s it. Those assist dont help him convert random hits into decent damage.
does anybody work with doom’s Y assist?
Doom, Haggar, Phoenix seems like a great team in theory.
I’d imagine Viewtiful Joe could use Molecular Shield well, since he can just move inside it when it comes out as a projectile to prevent him from being poked and if he has you in the corner, he can make you block Molecular Shield and do a high low mix-up with his ‘invisible’ overhead, if you’re on the ground.
Edit: I’d imagine Storm could also use Molecular Shield for the same reasons!
I can see where you’re coming from, since Dr. Doom has an easy OTG combo. However, he is completely outclassed by Dante in this team, since Dante has segments of his combo which are not affected by the huge hit stun deterioration that comes with the Double Lariat assist, and Dr. Doom doesn’t. Dr. Doom simply can’t make the most out of Haggar’s Lariat like Dante can. Not to mention Dr. Doom is regarded as a lower tier character than Dante.
The storm part is so damn true. You can insta gib akuma and many other assists on reaction to assist call if you have her on your team. + Shes better on point than half the cast, and opens you up with an a high low mixup thats actually FAST ( faster than Magnetos). Once you master her wonky ( which doesn’t mean bad) normals you find shes much less assist dependent than you would ever think. I mean seriously… I can’t believe there is no THC discussion even though its so powerful.
I don’t play Spidey at all, what’s the best team for him?