If Felicia can deal with zoning she’s a good character, if the person can’t get in using her then that’s a problem. Once she’s inside she has good pressure, mix up, solo unblockables and damage output’s decent, however thanks to her assist being so good most people put her as anchor where her ability to deal with zoning is dramatically hindered by lack of assists, even in X-factor 3 Viper/Mags/Dante with a good space control assist can keep Felicia away. 
Even Morrigan can get more than 600k off Vector Drain if you want to use 2+ bars for it. She can solo Shadow Servant follow it up if her back is to the corner and DHC, or if she’s set to Shadow Blade assist she can team hyper for follow up if one of her teamates has a fast OTG hyper like Hail Storm. Shuma’s is just ass though, to my knowledge there is nothing you can do to follow it up barring x-factor and an assist because he does the Shuma pose after it.
Also Nobus, hypers aren’t scaled extra by throws.
Felicia is a lot better than stream monsters give her credit for. It’s not even like her damage is Morrigan bad either. Her overall damage is actually comparable to Wesker, seeing as she has a 560k meterless BnB that leaves her in good position for resets or just good old fashioned pressure. I don’t even think she struggles that much against Magneto, though this could just be an issue of Magneto player snot knowing the match up. She does struggle a lot against Phoenix and Trish though. Her foreground dash is mostly useless outside of dodging around raw hypers though. It helpful against raw Shockwaves at least, and that is a fairly common tool.
Yeah the main thing about Felicia is that once she gets in your face she’s pretty much top tier. She has tools to stay in forever especially with kitty helper and assist. In XF2/3 if she gets near you with kitty helper you’re gone. That’s why they make it tough for her to get in. Once she does get in you should pretty much be getting hit seconds later if she’s not in XF and if she is in XF…you’re just so done. Her close range game is probably the best in the game without an assist and even more ridiculous with an assist or kitty helper.
I’m surprised she is so rare, she looked like her rushdown was nice as well as some pretty good hitboxes. I believe her potential isn’t thawed out because felicia doesn’t have many fans as a character. A reason why Dante is developing at such a great rate is because nearly everyone loves that character, I’m almost glad he’s top tier and I don’t even use him for the simple fact that he requires skill, thought, and is fun to watch.
It’s only invincible some point after the start up in the middle. It’s vulnerable to be hit towards the end as well so it’s hard to use effectively without assist. If she’s fighting one on one against a projectile character she can use it in a clutch situation but if they got assists its use is limited to assists also. When my brother uses Captain America’s cartwheel he uses it for ambiguous left right mix ups with an assist which is mainly what it’s for. Combined with Felicia’s rolling buckler assist you’re forced to block low and sometimes Captain will cross you up and sometimes he wont depending on how the assist lands. Rolling buckler assist gives him unblockables with his huge ranged j.S that can cross up also. The assist also keeps them in the corner correctly so he can continue his combos in the corner as normal. People have found new combos for Captain that work when he has people in the corner also.
Yeah that’s why you want the first 2 characters on your team to clean shit up so she only has to deal with one or 2 characters at most. All it takes is one random cracked out XF3 delta kick to get in and then she blows you up. 2 XF3 H Delta Kicks take her across 2/3s of the screen in a second provided she didn’t get hit by anything.
True dat. That’s the reason why characters who aren’t appealing get their stuff developed the latest. Felicia is annoying as hell just to look at.
You shouldn’t be surprised, she faces the same problem that X23 faces. Why use them when you can “DIVE KICK!!! BERSERKER SLASH!!! BERSERKER CHARGE!!!”
I meant in a flavor sense. Teleporting like an asshole is iconic for Wesker. It even made it into the terrible movie series. I definitely agree with you that he’d be a strong character without it.
Here’s the thing, I don’t think a tier list can really totally implement the whole game, as there are characters with purposes that other characters cannot fill.
A lot of what is being talked about here is on-point capability… when that doesn’t exactly matter for Akuma when Wolverine tears up 2.5 character lifebars.
Wolverine, Magneto, Wesker, Dante, a short list of some of the more fleshed out characters that have great offensive capabilities, and they can all tear apart teams. The same can’t be said for Tron or Morrigan or Haggar at this point, but they are more useful than say, Wolverine, as an assist, depending on the team.
really it’s too hard to measure some of this stuff.
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That’s why a few characters without much point capability (Tron, Haggar, maybe Hulk) are usually ranked higher than the others who suck as much as they do on point. For the most part though, characters that are good assists are also good point characters, which is another reason this game is so unbalanced.
This. Basically is everybody is spolied by Magneto/Wesker/Dante/Ammy/Phoenix…they don’t want to invest time in a less rewarding character. In the end, Felcia is underplayed because she Edit: hasn’t proven to be a overpowered character. That’s it.
Seriously people aren’t going to use Felica, X-23 despite the fact that they aren’t bad character that anything close to the bottom 10. UNLESS they are proven to have overpowered rewards for those using X-23/Felcia.
Wait, what?
Obviously he meant to say hasn’t but yeah.
Sorry for the crappy English(not my first language), but Felicia/X-23 are good characters, but people want to win with full potential of the MVC3’s strongest characters. So as a result, X-23/Felicia will be magically considered worse than what they really are.
I dunno. I mean, they’re good, as in better than oh, say, half of the characters in the cast (or at least X-23 is, I’m still not convinced about Felicia) but not only are they not as good as the top tiers, they require so much more effort for so much less reward that nobody even bothers (much like, yes, Iron man. You can stop saying it now, we get it)
Actually that wasn’t a word replacement that had occurred to me. I just focused directly on the word dominate haha 
Yeah, I agree with that.
Why spend your limited amount of free time perfecting a lower tier character when you can put the same amount of time into Dante and just concentrate on hitting the win button?
I think one of the problems is that the game came out near when tournament season was getting ramped up. As a result a lot of people migrated to the perceived high tier characters in order to stay competitive, which is why we have so many Team Best Friends and less people trying to find the viability of the less seen characters
Look at Clockw0rk. He was putting the time into Jill, but temporarily(?) dropped her to go back to Phoenix because competition is too high right now. I want to assume that after Evo we’ll start seeing more experimentation, but who knows.
ZERO is broken that is all !! if you get touched by him once you turn into a rag doll
Yeah you wont see a lot of experimenting till after Evo. People are still trying to figure out the mechanics of the game even so experimenting with untapped characters that haven’t proven to be fundamentally as sound as the high tiers is a big risk if you’re trying to go for the big stuff. With time in a game like this anything can happen. I definitely made sure I had at least one high tier on my team and after getting bored of Wesker I got Dante on my team who I’ve been fairing very well with and helps clean up stuff for X23 and Doom as long as he doesn’t die early. Which it’s very hard for Dante to die early when he has some of the most retarded hit boxes the game has to offer. Dont need to block, just keep shit on the screen. His jam session assist also compliments X23 really well and allows her to kill people before they can even engage in a fight with her.
Your team doesn’t have to have all king of the hill tiers just to compete but it should at least have one or 2 of them if you dont wanna be frustrated all the time right now.