that is fu
that is too funny! Spidermans creative bullshit to counter pheonix retarded bullshit.
The funny thing is people will still be too scared to use Spider Man as a counter to her.
Why is Salty arguing against Spider-Man, whom he knows little to nothing about?
It’s like I’m talking to a wall here…
One of my two main teams is built around spider-man and he is pretty effective against non S class characters.
I don’t think the corner web swing throws are practical but the doom relaunch stuff is very easy to do and not execution heavy at all. I run Spidey (swing), Hulk (Wave for otg) and Doom (hidden for otg). I love Spidey because 800 health characters get murdered w/o meter from 2 (or 3 in corner) web swings and he just builds a ton of meter during these combos.
I don’t think he is practical without doom to squeeze that damage out, I also run hulk for the gamma crush dhc to kill any character w/o burning X-Factor, and 2 bars of meter. I wish I had real offline competition to try to and land spidey’s combos because my only mix up game is web swing overheads(1-2 ). I use doom assist to force a block to begin the mix ups but then you can’t use it mid combo…
All and all, he has very good potential but his maximum potential relies on too much. Spider-mans strength is his damage, hurt box, and mobility but his weakness imo is getting that first hit against a really good blocker.
Normal jump wep zips put in work though for shutting down offense.
I think you are. Everyone else understands that having Spidey in the back with a loaded x-factor and meter = instant dead Phoenix and DP. I’m sure planning on having a pocket Spidey for a Phoenix-heavy metagame, just saying.
guys i think there was a stealth nerf to damage in the game weskers level 3 usually does 450,000 k damage right? well im in training mode and its only doing 405k damage now…everything seems a little weaker now. please tell me im not going nuts
If this isn’t troll, or random sarcasm, exit training mode and fix your damage settings. Marvel can’t be stealth anything’d, and it’s been quite a while since the last title update.
ok never mind…im an idiot
Wolverine/Spider-Man, try this combo out lemme know if it works
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,:h:,:s: sj ,,:h: drill claw :d:+:h: :h:,:s: sj ,,:h: :f:/:u:/:d:+:s: ,:h:,:l: Web Swing xx Maximum Spider XF Ultimate Web Throw
if the MMH doesn’t work when Spidey comes in, just shorten it to MH.
(Web Swing assist)
:l:,,:h:,:s: sj ,,:h:,:s: land, Assist 1, :df:+:m:, :h:,:s: sj ,,:h: drill claw :d:+:h: :h:,:s: sj ,,:h: drill claw xx Fatal Claw DHC Maximum Spider
The idea is, if one character has trouble getting a hit confirm (which is supposedly Spider-Man, but I don’t believe that) then get someone who can. In this case, Wolverine. In my Wesker/Storm/Amaterasu team, I run Wesker first because he is better at hit confirming than Storm is due to her shit normals. I can simply aerial exchange to Storm and get an easy knockdown and DHC glitch.
You’re right on, Akuma, those combos do work. The second one has to be shortened a bit, but it works. And web swing is the assist you’re looking for.
With Wolvie, :l:, , :h:, :s:, sj , AE to Spidey , :h:, :l: web swing xx Max Spider worked perfectly on a full health Phoenix into UWT trick.
This would prolly work but you need to do web swing first then MS.
you no what? this might have helped me out with my team building! going to lab!
wat?
awesome! thanks for the feedback!
Right? Spider-Man as good as Trish? That’s hilarious.
Though I am with the guy on Storm, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Spider-Man ends up being better than her. I think that Storm is 100% garbage, and people only use her for the easy DHC glitch. Without the glitch, everyone knows that she’s Magneto minus the damage, meter-building capabilities, and useful assists. I think Storm will bottom out if the glitch is ever fixed. Hell, I think that Iron Man will end up being better than Storm.
But Trish is a zoning monster, with a serious rushdown game and tons of mobility, AND she sports decent assists. Spider-Man is mobile, but I don’t think that anyone can deny that his mobility is quite telegraphed. And he sure as hell can’t float around and zone out half the cast for free with traps and Zeus bolts. And all of his assists are about as useful as having taste buds in your asshole.
I still feel like his anti-Phoenix tech is a little gimmicky. I’d rather have something like Dante/Wolverine/Wesker on my team, and go for a simple left/right cross-up after snapping her in. As opposed to having to chase her around with five bars, and hoping you don’t fuck up your wonderful setup, because if you do it’s game/set/match.
The only reason Trish would be higher than Spiderman in the tier list would be her assist. You complain about Storm being Magneto minus the damage and meter-building capabilities and yet Trish does even less damage and is a worse meter hog. And it’s easier to punish her than even Spiderman. She has her share of significant weaknesses, why else did you think most people have dropped her already?
Because they don’t know how to use her? That’s the most obvious one.
Trish is better than Storm because she can do everything Storm can other than gimmick chip you full screen with hail storm and gets access to a 5 frame c.L that’s plus 1 or 2 on block, rapid fire and covers like a 1/3 of the screen. She also gets a dive kick that she can cancel into any airborne maneuver she has anytime she wants to keep it safe from XF guard cancels and gets the same overall mix up that Storm does. I dont see how she’s any more of a meter hog than Storm. Plus the fact that her peekaboo assist allows anyone that can follow up the assist to start the assist is just begging you to use her over Storm. She can runaway as well as Storm, rush down as well as Storm but has a quite a few extra things that Storm doesn’t have. The only reason people dont use her is because they know Magneto has 7 frame disruptah and H meter build to grabbity squeeze. Andre is one of the only people that regularly uses her but her synergy with Dante allowing him to do death combos on the entire cast without DHC glitch is way too good also.
Speaking Trish, does anyone else find her to be a lot like a regular Phoenix with 800k health? She seems like she can do a lot of the same stuff but with better normals. I’m thinking a lot of match ups that Phoenix does well against Trish should too.