MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

Jago is a loud mouth honestly. I am not sure he fully processes what he says lol. He does have a point though. You can’t have a team that falls a part after the death of one character. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use characters with great assist, it just means your team should be lined up to face adversity. Also, I feel like he may be referring to some people who don’t seem to know how to play the assist characters they choose. I personally think Battery/User/Assist works great in this game. People have been set in this mentality to use XF3 on a solid anchor. Why not burn XF2 on a solid user who still has an assist to mix up?

As far as an effective team with weak solo characters at the end ( sent / tron / haggar) etc, I think they’ll be strong in the early stages of this game, but as demonstrated by Daigo vs Justin, all you have to do is X factor at the right time in the middle of pressure to completely shut down atleast one character for free (in justin’s case he lost Wolv AND Akuma). Pretty much if the other player wants to spend x factor, they can kill your point character at any time if you press a button. So I think having a team that can fight independently if need be is going to be important because x factor is going to be blowing up your one man show too often to rely on just one character.

Yeah thats pretty much what I was getting at, with a beam assist, the drones might not be an issue. Still… god help you if wolverine sneaks behind doom and dante with H berserker slash.

Hmm, since most people who posts in here have a version of their tier list, I’ll have mine coming soon :slight_smile:

Marn seems pretty weak at this game. I like the guy so hopefully he’ll step it up. I my honest opinion Magneto was by far his best character. His Zero isn’t that above average honestly but it gets more exposure than any other Zero out there.

If you think Sent is a weak point character than please include Akuma. I personally think Sent is a better point character than Akuma.

Yeah it’s not like that’s a matchup specific thing dealing with the strength of H berserker slash. Dante can definitely stay comfortable zoning with doom beam and hammer. Only the H berserker slash can cross you up if you’re turtling Wolvie and even then he has to get into a certain obvious range for it to cross up if you’re playing lame.

I don’t think Jago had a point. Who is he even talking about? his fellow emp members or randoms at tourneys and online?

MVC2 followed this format just fine. After 10 years of that game there is still nothing you can do if all your left with is your assist character. How many times has Yipes made Psylocke look amazing even in a 1-on-1?

It’s just the nature of the game, this is a real team game, where every character lives or dies by the assists they have to help them. You can be a Tron master, but if you get stuck with her as your last character you’re done in most cases, particularly if it’s still a 2-on-1 situation.

People just need to learn how to move their team around a bit. Don’t let your point character die if they are so important, bring in Tron and let her eat up some damage while they heal, she’s got 1.2m for a reason. Same goes for Haggar, you can still make these characters work on point when they have 2 other assists to help them while you wait for your all-star to regen. I think that’s what people just aren’t doing, they are too afraid of losing there assist character to ever put them on point for a short time.

I think Nerdjosh is a prime example of this. He could do so much better if he didn’t let Shulk die and popped in Tron. With Taskmaster assisting her NerdJosh’s Tron could still get some work done, or worst comes to worst he gets zoned out and eats chip till Shulk is ready to go again.

Nerd Josh was basically losing to himself. Like in tennis he made a lot of unforced errors which cost him. Mentally he was beating everybody he played he just kept double faulting.

Well I basically said all that in my post. The only point he made really is it’s stupid to have team as a liability and it’s even more stupid to not know how to play your assist characters.

And Nerd Josh just gets out performed IMO. I don’t know how he is beating himself.

well, ive seen alot of top players using tron 3rd which i was never a fan of (unless its clakey d) and nerdjoshs tron failing time and again on stream kind of proves my point… tron isnt good as a 3rd character.

im still convinced that sent is atleast decent in 3rd slot, though he seems to be slipping a bit… probably most sents just need to open up there game.

-dime

Wow, this is a real contender for “stupidest post” on SRK. Are you just a 12 year old kid who makes up his own nonsense as he goes along? Since week 1 people have been saying Wolverine is top 5 for free, and if that isn’t enough when Tokido picks Wolverine/Sent/Phoenix and says stuff like “Wolverine is too cheap!!” you can take that shit to the bank. Wolverine is the tippity toppest tier right now, his tools are amazing, his mix-ups are damn near unblockable, and he has the highest happy birthday rate in the game, pull your head out of the clouds cupcake.

Kind of tired of hearing all this theory fighter about how easy it is to zone out Wolverine too, that shit isn’t happening no matter what you think it looks like on paper. Dormammu is the only character that legitimately gives Wolverine problems right now, and you gotta play that really solid against someone like Justin because 1 touch and you can believe Dorm isn’t getting a second chance.

Yeah I think Sent performs leaps and bounds better than Tron when anchored. He may be easier to block than Wolverine/Magneto/Zero/etc/etc but his super armor, flight mode, command grab, and beams keep him threatening regardless. Also, if he DOES hit you it’s a dead character often times.

Tron assist seems to work really well too. Tron will take out dive kick, akuma assist, and sent drones… only leaving you to worry about back zerker slash.

Sent does ok anchored… but this ain’t week 1 anymore. Funny enough is that Tron blows up sentinel. 1/2 screen instant overhead? yes plz! The biggest problem that comes up often is Tron vs Akuma. She beats his assist, and even stuffs his assist on point… but she can’t do much about jumpback air fireball and cancel to super when close.

If you think Tron blows up Sentinel, then you don’t play good Sentinels

lolwut? Tron doesn’t blow up Sentinel. His armored moves rape her j.H and j.S. Unless you mean she blows up his assist and that I can possible see.

THANK YOU.

Sentinel’s armored s.M and TK’d hard drive definitely keep Tron j.H randonmness in check. Hardly a bad match. It’s only recently that people are getting past c.M/S Sentinel but when you get past that he’s a more solid character that can deal with a lot of situations. He just still has the same problem of getting owned up real fast once the gap is closed and his assist is a big liability unless well protected.

You can even cr.M. His cr.M is an anti-air move lol.

wolvie does well against tron assist, his cr.lk bogos her for almost free and his crossup slash does as well.

tron versus sent depends on who has what assists, if its 1v1 the match is weird cause both can kill off of one hit… sent can beat j.hp with s.M or c.M or jumping S or M. tron can use TK bonne strike as a means to get in. tron having an overhead isnt an issue anymore than any other character since pretty much all characters have instant overheads against him… he also has an “instant” overhead on tron (jumping H)

combine with flight and lasers and i think sent comes pout on top, but not easily cause he has to be cautious about using his moves cause wiffs could lead to death.

-dime

s.M would be the better option since the hit box is higher and she can’t do anything like cancel into drill to avoid the c.M. Once s.M is out in the air she can’t be up there doing stuff unless she somehow forces it to whiff.

Yeah I think it’s a good solid fight 1 v 1 especially without the XF. It’s just who spaces or closes first.

She-Hulk/Taskmaster/Tron is a really good team. Nerdjosh just never finishes his food and can’t do Taskmaster BnBs so people assume Task is the weak point on his team when really it’s just him fucking up. Task/Tron is a godlike combo, Tron does the same thing she does for She-Hulk which is cover up the moves hes negative on and allow you to continue pressuring until they crack and you get that easy 1mil combo. Tron on her own is pretty much an auto loss though, but the reason for playing her is to never get to that point.

SRK, you let KFC become a bannable offenses but let the term happy birthday live? You dissappoint me, Keits :’(