MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

if you’re going by damage output off confirms as your reasons for top tier then yeah definitely akuma is gonna be high up on that list… along with hulk and thor. his ground M tatsu is the safest on block at +3 but it loses to pushblock if you do it on the last hit.

To quote the Bible regarding Dante:
Standing L
8 frames startup
Active for 3 frames
13 recovery frames
-2 on hit
-3 on block

Crouching L
8 frames startup
Active for 3 frames
11 recovery frames
0 on hit
-1 on block
low attack, rapid fire, chains into Standing L

Yes, truly those are blisteringly fast light attacks. I’m not going to argue that he has good hitboxes on his attacks (at least ones involving the sword) but to argue that they’re quick attacks seems odd to me.

I stand corrected on the normals. Although I still believe that c.L comes out quicker than that.

He is. Situational setups for damage, lack luster assist and not really a threat. SO he needs assists to beat footsies, he needs assists to beat zoners, and he needs assists to not do morrigan tier damage?
How the fuck is that not a liability when he doesn’t contribute to the team and needs a bunch of shit to get him going?

You need to stop dickriding and recognize that he’s shit. There’s nothing wrong with playing a bad character, I don’t know why everyone wants to make everyone believe that their favorite character is h4xx0rZ.

Tell me more great master.

Wolvie High-Mid? Lol

Am I crazy or where did all the ammy’s go everyone had her up there in s a bit ago I never had that many issues with her. Was she just an anti sent char and now withthe sent army gone she doesn’t have much use.

Are you going to elaborate on why or post stuff that 10 year olds would?

well hulk and thor are not bad u just need to build a team around team justin use thor and won

:eek: She has use, but many players don’t really want to go into the more complex glaive and bead stance modes.

Solar Flare combo on the ground is where most Amaterasu players will stay until they get the gumption to use her more intricate stances. I mean, I can kinda understand where they’re coming from; at first, it was just because Solar Flare was easy, but now, switching into other stances is kinda like playing Viper…unless you absolutely know what you’re doing 100% of the time, you will probably stick out something and die for it with all the Wolverines and Magnetos running about. Solar Flare is very safe and very stable, and I feel players may be looking for that comfort zone while we’re all in the eye of the proverbial Marvel typhoon’s metagame.

Speaking of Wolverine, this is all I imagine everytime I hear his name:

Spoiler

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Oh come on. Wolverine loses to those characters one on one but bodies so many of those characters for free with Akuma/Sentinel. Wolverine is too good right now.

Anyone who thinks Wolverine isn’t top at this point is just delusional.

Wolverine is top but he is fighting the same character

X-Ray did great with her at NCR. Glaive stance with a bit of blocking shut down a lot of Wolverine and Wesker play.

Wait, did I see someone put MODOK higher than Wolverine?

I don’t even WANT what he’s smoking.

People need to start using Hulk more, you can’t jump H with a divekick

New strat with Wesker vs. Wolvie back teleport like a mofo. You can back teleport on reaction to beserker slash I’m starting to think wesker can zone Wolverine with a beam assit and his gun and punish bad approaches.

Pick 3 top tier characters and profit.

It’s funny to leave and check this thread after majors. Peoples mind change like the tide.

Dhc trick what? Dhc trick who? Wolverine sucks huh? What? She hulk is too good, sent sucks…

Amazing lol

you can zone until you get hit once. then you die.

no it doesn’t I racked my brain trying to figure out how to punish a blocked bslash on block, Dante cannot. His faster normal is 8 frames, nothing he has is faster than that. Reverb shock is at 8 frames tho.

Yep. That’s a bad matchup. Wolverine controls up/down pressure. Locking down Wolverine to get the left/right becomes a chore b/c he’s trying to superjump in on you to get the +8 and setup the left/right mixup or instant overhead. That battle comes down to AA assists. Jam Session shuts him down cold and I have a feeling Trish’s Peekaboo is solid too (jump back gunshot call assist and sit on it). You only need two hit confirms to kill Wolverine anywho, which is good.