MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

His mobility is probably the best non-teleport or airdash in the game, he can get awesome damage off of OTG assists in the corner.

Aaaaaand that’s about it.

Taskmaster B&Bs build their own meter and do over 1 million, he’s a very high damage character with good normals for counter poking and even for pressure with the right assists. He also has one of the best assists in the game.

He is one of the best supporting roles for a team, but I feel against a lot of the top tier he has pretty severe issues.

I now count on Chrisis to make every character sound S tier :nunchuck:QUITE BEING SO POSITIVE CHRISIS lol!

He has a web throw infinite in the corner and has decent high low game with assists. And…that’s about it that I’ve seen any way. There’s probably more to him but he doesn’t just run around and win like the high tiers or nothing.

@NissanZaxima:
Taskmaster’s really high damage, and he has great support and zoning tools, but I feel having bad match ups against Mags, Dorm, Viper, Dante, and Zero is really bad.

Damn, didn’t see all this discussion on Zero v Wolverine. I have some cents that may or may not add up to 2.

I think Zero is a dramatically stronger character than Wolverine. With assists he can do the same things albeit requiring more execution, and his hitboxes aren’t terrible either. On top of this he has a solid zoning game and a very safe way of playing that Wolverine can’t quite match. A large portion of the cast has issues dealing with a Zero who doesn’t want to be hit more than one who just wants to rush them down.

Are you sure this is “unbiased”?

Zero has like 6 command dashes and the best projectile in the game. Zoning him is SUPER risky.
Also, damage is low-medium… That is a myth. My execution is nothing special but my zero still dishes out 650-800k consistently with 1 meter and no XF. Kill pretty much the whole cast with one DHC.
When talking about mix-up, zero also has instant overheads/low when covered by certain assists. He also has some unseeable left/right mix up. His mix up is the best in the game imo.
And he can crossup very easily without assists. J214M>J.H is like silly strong.

There’s more, but are you seriously calling this unbiased? Wolvie cannot be zoned because of berserker slash? What about people who can zone him from the air like Trish?

Mag’s braindead disruptors and shockwaves being better than other zoning tools, eh. They are simple and easier to use, which really says alot about this game.

A blocked shockwave can be punished by most of the cast and if you know how to negate the pushback from the shockwave (this also nets you more frame advantage and it works on a variety of other full-screen hypers), you can punish mags from full-screen with this. (i.e dash once with Dante and stinger him and continue with combo of choice/Chris’ :m: or :h: gunfire or grenade hyper)

This might have a video posted about this not sure.

If the character can’t hurt mags from full-screen, do the above and press the two assist buttons (depends on your team setup), though this isn’t recommended.

also what’s going on with the text on srk? (using dark style)

Lol ok at first I thought you were talking about Spiderman because it came right after my post asking about him. Now that I know you were talking about Tasky that makes much more sense

Zero is the BETTER OVERALL charecter Wolverine is the BETTER RUSHDOWN simple as that. Wolverine is a ONE TRICK PONY stop his rushdown and he isnt a threat, stop zero’s rush then he can sougenmou hadengeki buster spam lockdown OR genmu zero if need be. Versatilty def zero Rushdown hands down wolvie

Spiderman has good damage and good movement, but I don’t know enough about him to properly say where he’s at, he does have a lot of potential and really high gaugeless damage. (I think like 1.15 million or something?)

Of course, how could I forget that they gave the fastest beam in the game to a character like Magneto. Combine that shit with drones and meter, he is crazy good at zoning . He can shut up most of the cast, and that’s ignoring his X-Factor Disruptah. Wesker/Magneto get insane boosts in X-Factor when they zone. They practically make keepaway characters look like a joke.

One of the things they got to balance in patch/DLC/SuperMVC3 is the buffs with X-Factor. Some have downright INSANE buffs that they absolutely should not have whatsoever.

If you’re not killing someone in one combo, you’re low or medium IMO. 500-600k ish in one combo is low, 700-800 (where zero averages) is medium, and anything above that is high usually. Zero can break into high damage with the lightning loop but that takes extremely high execution. There’s also that 1 mil combo if you haven’t used any of your assists and you’re running dante / sentinel, but that’s only for that team and it’s also high execution.

Vs Trish, he can get under her and through the ground traps, if she dive kicks in attempt to hit him, she’ll run into an assist. From there wolverine can meet her with a super jump and his air normals, or with an ambiguous drill claw, if she blocks it, dive kick > do shit. Trish’s zoning is good for characters that can’t get past the ground trap to approach her. IE: Zero actually has to deal with the projectiles she puts out before approaching her, Wolverine can just go past it and then approach from a better position.

Sentinel Assist into slash is seriously the most brain dead answer to almost everything in the game.

I would also wager and say that Zero’s instant overhead is a great deal easier to block than wolverines if you’re talking about the TKed dive feint into an air move. Otherwise his instant overheads don’t work on most of the cast minus the huge hitbox people like sentinel, wolverines as far as I know works on everyone.

I do agree that Zero has amazing mixups once he gets in and I think he has better normals than Wolverine, but he doesn’t have easy mode approaches and easy mode high low mixups like that clawed bastard.

Oh how stupid of me!!! If only I would have known it was that easy!

I mean if you intercept all of Peyton Mannings passes he isn’t much of a threat either!

I suppose thats why he is a GREAT regular Season QB but in the post season he chokes just like when my saints beat him in the superbowl, but i will save my nfl argument for another thread but not before saying DREW BREES is the BEST QB in the league IMO

Maybe its easy for me cuz of how i deal with him and my team, but i dont think he is effective but not to effective to where he cant be just as effectively

Im 100% not trying to start a QB debate. I could have inserted any current great NFL QB into Peyton Mannings slot and it would have meant the same.

A lot of people act like stopping Wolverine is easy as 123. Shit could be far from the truth. Makes me realize a lot of people here haven’t really faced good Wolverines who know how to handle pushblock properly.

I have faced good not great and for the most part get him cornered and (in my case) hadaneki buster sougenmos with zero keeps him in place then its just grab to combo and kill, thats just me tho, and i get your point about the qb analogy…Glad there are other football fans on SRK

Lol at cornering Wolverine. And drill claw is incredibly safe if it gets blocked. Dunno why people keep saying it’s easily punishable, it’s really not.

Yea the better Wolverines can pretty much do whatever they want whenever, I basically just sort of pray I get lucky in that matchup. If I end up touching him I X Factor and kill him because he is too much of a headache when he is in. Zero for obvious reasons would have a little easier time against Wolverine but not the rest of the cast.

I will have a little fun though. Peyton Manning has the same number of rings Brees has + more MVP’s. Also I don’t recall Manning losing to a below .500 team in the playoffs (hint: my hometown SEATTLE SEAHAWKS :rock:)

Yea zero is kinda easy mode for dealing with wolvie

(in regards to your seattle reference) Thats a low blow, man that running back CRUSHED us for tha big run late in the 4th (cant remember his name) im still hurting from that, BUT i also dont recall Drew throwing 2-4 int a game over the course of 4 games (Peyton Mannings Drought)

Thats actually a perfect analogy

Here is what it feels like when you try to “stop” Wolverine

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