Actually you can figure out alot of the frame stuff on your own. It’s just takes alot of work, and there would be some inaccuracies admittedly.
So I have noticed a lot in this thread that when we talk about a certain character (one of the better ones) someone always pops in with Trish is a good counter to that character. So what characters counter trish? I would think Dormammu could pick that bitch out of the sky and can cr m beat out divekick?
Maybe, but Flame Carpet sure does.
Dante is actually a good counter to keepaway trish. Teleport fucks any trap attempts. He doesn’t deal too well with rushdown trish though.
Phoenix is the only hard Trish counter I know of. She can get in on Trish easily AND zone Trish out.
I think any character with a pheonix style teleport (based on opponents position) does okay. It makes it hard for trish to implement her zoning game. But hey, Trish is a darned good character, beating people is what they do.
Dormammu, Phoenix, Magneto, and Taskmaster are characters I find to be a pain when using Trish. Teams that knock her out of the sky give her trouble also.
Which reminds me. It seems to me that in this game, any character with a teleport that can have it’s landing position changed is at least a good character. Is it just me, or is a teleport one of the best tools a character can have?
Dante doesn’t really deal well with rushdown period but he has a ton of tools to stop rushdown before it starts and has no problem applying pressure himself especially with an assist.
**In general though I’ve been starting to think about the most similar attributes among the top characters and the number one thing that sticks out in my head is the scare factor of a character without an assist. **Like nobody is afraid of She Hulk unless she has assists so with assists she gets a huge bump and power and becomes close to top tier. Though Wesker, Zero, Magneto, Wolverine or Dante, they are all very capable without assists and if you give them an assist they just get more retarded. You’re not all of a sudden not afraid of those characters just because they dont have an assist.
who is though? do you mean thor?
Though is a word that means “although”, “however” or “on the other hand”.
Trish’s important match ups IMO:
Bad:
Magneto, Dante, Dorm, Phoenix.
Good:
Viper, Wolverine, Felicia, Spencer.
I think Trish will have a large effect on the metagame if people begin to use her. This game is kind of strange in that it has been ruled by rushdown in the early stage rather than the usual defensive play. I think Trish could start to give people thoughts of runaway centric teams. Runaway is a headache for Wolverine who seems to be target number 1 lately. You make him come to you and punish him for whiffing dive kicks and Zerker Slashes.
trish is fast when played right, i went against a good rushdown/runaway trish, couldnt catch her at all and i was wesker. And yes to the meta-game with her if people do actually want a good chance against wolverine. She has a lot of mixups, IAD j.H/S is sooo good. Or if you want to go tricky air hopscotch xx double jump xx j.d.H i dont know how many times i fell for that.
Well, so I thought I was good at the game, until I fought a bullshit Magneto / She-Hulk / Doom team. My team of Hulk / Akuma / Sent was free. Online, some of Mag’s overheads just cannot be blocked on reaction, I fought him 5 times in a row, and each time, it was borderline perfects.
Add to the good Wesker. I feel that a well played Trish almost always can frustrate a Wesker to death as much as say a Wolverine
what’s everyone’s thoughts on taskmaster? i just picked him up and seems like he belongs in the list of top tier characters in the game. his bnb’s are at around 700k with one meter, which seems real good.
tasky with his high hp, high dmg output, dhc trick capabilities, keep away, nice mixups. So yes he does belong up there.
damn, i forgot about the DHC trick capability too. would you consider task in the top 5?
i reckon hes got a pretty good “liking” system down by now, he can probly “like” a whole page in about 20 secs without looking at the screen for sure.
taskmaster dose not have nice mixups