I believe Zero is on the same level as the top dogs.
Otherwise I pretty much agree with that list.
A= Characters who fuck shit up and just don’t give two fucks
B= Really good characters with a few drawbacks
C= Good characters but the top give them lots of trouble.
D= Meh characters. Really hard to win with
E= Botton of the barrel bad. Need serious buffing to become competitive
All I know is Dante’s hammer might be the best move in the game.
As with most lists parts of your list I agree with others I don’t, could you give a preliminary description for the characters you marked with asterisks to give some idea on a lot of them? The main characters I disagree with aren’t asterisked actually. o.o
Sentinel seems too high, Iron Man I still need convincing on, Spencer seems low, and Doom seems low.
Also Phoenix seems outrageously low. o.o
dog C
Chris should be at least be at the bottom of B tier or High C.
Paper likes this.
After homework, stream, and TV I will reply to all questions about my list so we can agree/disagree! XD I am surprised with the positive outlook though. Believe it or not I put a lot of thought into that instead of just posting it. It’s the first time I’ve decided to tier this game. By no means am I some authority though lol.
I agree with most of this, I think Cap could be moved up all the way to B- tier. I really, truly mean it. At the very least C+. He is definitely as good or better than some of the characters in that tier.
I dont see tankmaster as an A
Chris should be B
but mostly everything else I agree with
I must be one of the shittiest players or something, cause I can’t play Wolverine worth shit. In practice I can do all of his combos ( which are damn easy of course ) but online I have a lot of problems covering the gaps, getting in and landing a hit. I have no idea why… I just get caught in something and get destroyed pretty easily. My Akuma is tons better, and it seems people fear him more then Wolverine in some cases.
I bolded why.
How to win at Marvel 3!!
Step 1 Pick Logan
Step 2 Pick and abuse drones
Step 3 Dive kick
Step 4 Berserker slash
Step 5 Use x-factor
Step 6 Watch and laugh as you body people
Results offline my vary…or not
Yeah, I love Dooms dash cancel and ungodly Lv. 3. I mean, he can stick pretty well to people, but approaching them is a whole different matter. There’s also the fact that he has a very poor time converting damage from jumpers. All this makes me think that he’s on the pile of “Great with assist, not so hot by themselves” list such as She-Hulk, but even lower cause I just see too many holes in his playstyle. Also, I don’t agree with ranking someone higher in tiers just because they’re a good helper. I feel that requires a tier of its own.
As for Skrull. Well, he probably has the mix-up potential, but I just can’t see him at the level of Spencer, who has a get-in-your-face-for-free move, a super that hits you just cause you sneeze, and a set of gimmicky-but-effective mixups that deals damage.
You’re thinking too hard, just go nuts.
I am a Zero player and the biggest fan imaginable. Honestly, he is just BARELY out of that range I think. Low health and low damage hurt him a lot. Before you say lightning loop, I know but it hasn’t proven viable just yet. If it becomes consistent and used he will sky rocket but also, it is corner only. I use the optimal buster combo and his damage is good but nothing compared to the other characters in the top tier. Zero has all the tools but just doesn’t quite have all the attributes. Make sense sort of? I didn’t want to to type a huge thing about it.
Chris has a lot of potential. He has good horizontal screen control, high damage, battery potential, and high health. Haggar is mobility impaired even with assist. Sure Timothy does a great job with him but I think that is partially because of a lack of familiarity and even with two assist he lacks nearly as many options as Chris. Haggar is reduced to gimmicky pipes, slow command grabs, absolutely no OTG, and his hypers lack range. The assist just doesn’t make up for all these glaring weaknesses.
Sentinel: Extremely mobile for large hitbox, super armor on several normals, and great hypers. Sentinel can always enter the screen safe against Weskers/Wolvies/She-Hulks with at least one meter because of Hard Drive. That alone is a huge advantage. Like Hulk, Sentinel punishes mistakes/pressing buttons heavily but he doesn’t solely rely on that. He has a decent command grab and some tools towards opening someone up. XF3 Is like crack.
Iron Man: I am just a believer. I could be wrong on this. Tri-Jump, Flight Cancel, Heavy Hitter, Awesome Assist, good jumping normals, but awkward as hell. Has potential.
Spencer: I just don’t see the potential. His command throw is garbage, his combo potential (YES I have seen the Desk video but realistically and assist aren’t always combo extenders) is not that great. He is a DHC starter but not the best one. Bad mobility and he just seems a little unsafe moving around the screen. Bionic Lancer is nuts though.
Doom: I am just not convicned he can open you up. Clockw0rk inspired me with a “hop dashing” j.m cross-up. We’ll see if I change my mind. Fantastic assists.
Phoenix: Phoenix hasn’t been showing up too hard lately. I believe as people are starting to play Wolvie and Wesker more Phoenix is going to struggle once snapped in and faced with mix-ups. Shout outs to Viscant for proving me wrong a WNF! lol. I just think she’s being exposed. As people master her combos though she will probably be even more nuts.
C.Viper* I believe Viper has all the tools necessary. She is a damage machine and a human battery. I don’t need to explain her tools, Chrisis has done it.
Chris* Talked about Chris up there
[COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica]Felicia* She is like a mini Wesker. I think her Kitty Helper can reach a lot of potential and she has a lot of reset options. Her air throw is insane too. She is a Ammy/Wesker hybrid with crappy health.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica]Tron BonneShe has so much trouble opening you up. j.H only goes so far (looks at NerdJosh :D). I was pleased seeing her at point at UFGT. There is hope.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica]Viewtiful Joe I SEE POTENTIAL. Yes, seriously. The hitbox is annoying and he has some interesting hypers with Six Machine and Slow Down. Also, he can play Viewtiful Troll and zone you out for good.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Helvetica]Thor* Tri-Jumps, high health, good damage, DHC Glitch, and pretty awesome grappler. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
Her reset game is pretty rowdy. I’ve always wanted to make a team running her on point, though I’m not sure if that would work? I figure that you need serious meter to burn on Kitty Helper for the unblockable high/low stuff, but, I think that as her reset game gets figured out, people will stop giving two shits about Kitty’s Helper. I imagine that she can probably get some really good pressure with the right assists.
I also wonder if her quasi-teleport would work with drones at all, though I imagine it’d be easy to see coming those big fat cat tats coming right at you.
Edit: Though, if I ever tried a team with Felicia on point, I’d run Felicia/Dante/Task. Get some of that tier-whore shit to make up for Felicia.
I like her best in the 2nd spot so you can utilize Rolling Buckler for Unblockables and build meter for Kitty Helper. She is actually an alright anchor. She gets REALLY FAST.
How come the main complaint about Wolverine seems to be that he’s too easy, yet we’re arguing that execution shouldn’t matter for tiers. Which one is it going to be =.
Wolverine: with (Akuma) assist, puts u in a block string where he can confirm many lows, or go for instant overheads, into x-factor level 1, then death. If the mixup is blocked, he gets another free mixup with ambiguous berserker slash - > into b.charge, into death if not blocked.
At that stage if you’ve blocked the berserker slash mixup (mind u, all uve done is block so far), guess what, the assist is back to mixup u up!
Effective playing against wolvie would be zoning him out of course, or just Marvel footsies, and being on point with ure air grab (though this goes for all the chars that can setup a combo after the air grab). too bad Logan just doesnt give a fuck (aka berserk slash going through shit or dive kick/drill claw beating ure air grabs)
Lets say ure character is dead, well Logan has a braindead 50/50, that even he doesnt know which side to block lol.
all u got to learn is abcd combos, and how to combo after b-charge, and u are ready to play Wolverine at a high to moderate level.
block strings + assist calls,instant overheads and multiple lows make him that fearsome.
oh and he beats down Wesker and Taskmaster. Its true he does need to respect Dante’s Hammer (which blows up Akuma assist so well, my saving grace many times).
I dont play Magneto, so perhaps others can chime in on this matchup vs Wolverine.
on the UFGT stream they were saying that Ammy can fight him, i really dont see it. Paper special gets blown up by berserker slash no? runaway Trish might work as well.
well, im no one whos word to take about the game seriously, but for the 2 months i mained wolverine, i had lots of problems with deadpool, trish and well played arthurs (offline) i still consider all those characters to be bad matchups for wolvie (but NO ONE plays the at a high level, so its a moot point against the best wolvies out there),my Bslash game wasnt all that by any means (using invincibility plus ranging it is the hardest things for wolverine to do)
arthur in particular seemed to just be a straight ass… id bslash into drones or get hit on startup, superjumping seemed not so effective. but meh, keepaway is one of my weaknesses in this game.
still though, wolvie can certainly be lamed out consistently… its just really hard sometimes… lol
-dime