MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

I’ve been over all the reasons why Taskmaster is so low or why x character is so low or high etc etc before, go back to page 73 and go forward from there, 5/10/2011 was the last tier list I posted.

The best thing about Taskmaster is arrows assist, he has no real pressure options all his blockstrings that end in spidey swing or shield skill are unsafe so he just generally ends his blockstings in ways he can’t continue pressure, he has no real mixups and just isn’t that great of a character besides his damage. Every character above Taskmaster is better than Taskmaster, if anything I should have dropped him lower.

@keranata tier list

thor last??? ignored

Makes sense I guess.

I think you’re mad anime and much respect dude but I don’t agree with that tier list. :stuck_out_tongue: Not trying to be mean or anything… I’d put wolvie/wesker top 2 and TaskMaster is a gawd.

Fuck yeah, A tier

Hi Alex!

Np’s bro, you don’t have to agree with it, that’s just how I see the game. I respect yours as well as other top players opinions, I think you’re godlike and I don’t mean any disrespect. Hope there’s no hard feelings about it.

Zero = S Class. no way

Taskmaster isnt a mix up character.He serves to frustrate and annoy the opponent by zoning with arrows+good assist (drones,plasma beam,akuma tatsu)scoring alot of chip damage along the way.Task becomes somewhat of a sniper with his ability to confirm into his multiple angled super off of his arrows which is great for making people hesitant in calling their assists full screen. His main form of offense comes from his good wavedash into cr.m into a 1million damage combo.Mixing between zoning and wavedashing to start offense is the key to playing a good task instead of just herp derp random shield skills.

A player with good defense can block his normals and blockstrings easily but they cant block arrows forever, it makes them frustrated and then they run into Task’s ridiculous normals.To be honest he reminds me alot of Dhalsim.

His DHC synergy is great and he can end the DHC glitch.A counter super is never a bad thing to have either.His assist is also up there as one of the best projectiles.

Hes a jack of all trades character that a player with good fundamentals can make look really good, he also works on any team.

If Taskmaster had crazy mixups he would be all sorts of fucked

Indeed, it’s bad enough that some assists allow for enough block stun for Sword Master->Headbutt follow up.

I agree on the Mag/Sent giving Wolverine problem. Fill the screen with enough shit and Zerker Slash is gonna have a tough time getting through. Granted it takes a lot but Mag/Sent is common enough as a combination that it should be noted.

Dorm deserves to definitely be in the tier below the Top Tier. He has a couple issues and an annoying weak spot above his head that is very reachable by Dante. Ammy can also be a pain in the ass with her Air Dash being so safe. I used to think Wesker was a problem but not so much anymore. His ability to tear a team apart with or without XFC should be noted though. He is a legit counter to Phoenix with Stalker Flare and Chaotic Flame. Give Dorm 2 meters to start with and he can gain control over a large chunk of the cast. As DevilJin said, his j. C is very good. His teleport gets the job done without being OP, if it were he would be ridiculous. Only thing I could ask for is more range on his c. B when it comes to connecting on crouchers.

With Taskmaster you don’t need mixups when you got X-factor level 3, go nuts spam M/Mighty swing/into low

And I am thinking Hulk isn’t bad as people claim to be.

Pretty much everyone’s nuts with XF3, that’s not really a differentiator. Even Arthur blows people up with XF3.

Also Hulk seems to have a lot of bad match-ups, he’s assist dependent, and he can get lamed out. It’s really easy to not let Hulk hit you, too.

I think She-Hulk does pretty good against Wolverines, probably because of Tron assist though.

Or I’m playing all awful ones.

Hulk can get about as lucky as Sent with super armour however Hulk is easier to punish. Thing with Hulk, if he hits you, like Sent, it is almost instant death, and it’s easy 5 hit combos, but there are no major overheads, or mind game mixup’s, so it’s extremely hard to use Hulk against a pro player.

After watching that Marvel 3 tourny and Justin Wong play, I gotta say his ability to catch so many air throws is generally the deciding factor. Wolverine and She-Hulk together net about 5 - 6 air throws per match… that is a lot of free damage, and people need to start teching that shit if they want to beat him.

Also, after watching it, makes me really want to sit down with Marvel and practice hard to get to that calibre, just don’t have the time. I’m already a Tekken tournament winner / contender, Marvel just looks like a lot of fun in the high end play.

I think her cr.A might beat his pretty consistently (though not sure how it fares against his standing L), and I bet her j.H gives him some problems in the air like it does for most?

cr.H is really good too.

I do think taskmaster is one of the characters that will slip down the teir list in the future , wolvie aswell

A couple things:

re DPh: Did people forget about healing sphere? Spend one bar (which she gets easily) and health degen stops being a problem. The fact that she’s anchor 99% of the time means she gets lvl 3 XF which brings her from obvious best character to obvious broken character. People are saying if they take out XF she wouldn’t be good. Her BnB without any bonuses does 1 mil with 1 super and is meter positive. DPh is stupid good with or without XF. The reason why Ph isn’t dominating tourneys has already been explained. She’s a huge gamble, consistently winning with her is difficult with the meter and health issues. Doesn’t change the fact that she has the option of going full retarded.

@Keranata: Zero his own tier, really? Having 800k (lowest next to Ph) really holds him back, I think. And he needs an assist and high execution to get good damage, whereas the rest of the top tier get better damage for less. Why do you think he’s so good?

A final point: I have to agree with what Viscant said in that we should be focusing on matchups. This was brought up before in regards to SSF4, the top tier in that game looks less awesome in tournament because while they dominate many of the weaker characters, they have unfavorable matchups with many popular tournament characters. So if you’re going to rank the top tier in order (which I think boils down to opinions) you should be focusing on their interactions with each other and seeing who generally has the least disadvantage.

At worst they will slip from top tier to upper tier, their tools just make them super solid. Task has one of the best projectiles in the game and Wolvie has the scariest 50/50.