Haggar.
why is everyone trying to give renegade a hard time when pretty much everything he says about iron man is correct?
lets just all bow down to flash like everyone does in the ssf4 viper forums. :rolleyes:
I’ve read assertions here and there about match-ups, but I was interested in knowing if anyone attempted a preliminary match-up chart. Even amongst a subset of characters (for instance, how higher tier characters match-up with one another) would be interesting.
Can I give him hard time but still agree that Ironman is middle of the pack?
eh i suppose.
thats a pretty mean battery team for phoenix.
You can also cancel her slide into her A and B grabs. Sup half screen command grabs.
matchups are kinda moot/a lesser point in this game because a bad match up can be changed drastically with different assists
People give him a hard time when he says things along the lines of X character being absolutely terrible when although there are likely stronger options that character has a lot of unique tools that can be strong.
One thing I definitely agree with him on is 700K is not high damage in this game. I think outside of Hsien-ko everyone with the right team hits 700K with 1 starting gauge, some way more.
Your opponents are bad if they fall for this, and so are you for doing it.
Any competent player will see it coming a mile away and beat the fierce command grab with a fast normal.
I’ll agree with Destin just cuz he’s cool and he created those Zero combos.
I’m not sure about top 10 myself for Iron Man but I dont see any reason for him not to be better than like 40 to 50 percent of the cast easy. From there it’s a toss up because the game has only been played competitively for 3 months but it’s undeniable that he has good tools.
not disputing but who is top 15
if I get a do over, I’d probably swap Chun with Iron Man.
I can get 900k-1m off Wesker’s mustang kick and end up with more meter without DHC glitching,XF, and starting with 0.5 bars.
Also, Mustang Kick does not reset damage scaling. It just doesn’t scale as a throw and since it only registers 1 or 2 hits, people get the impression that scaling is reset.
People talk a lot of shit about this game, but you gotta love a fighting game where a 20th best character is really strong.
People will talk shit about anything popular/not as complicated as its predecessor. SF4 sucks because it brought new players in and was way easier to play than past SF games. MvC3 sucks because it is totally brain dead compared to MvC2 bro. A game must be garbage if it is easier to play.
imo you should swap X-23 for a lower tier character too. she sucks. I’d put her one spot ahead of Morrigan, maybe.
she has big problems with zoning, no good high priority pokes, her left/right mixup is easy to block and she doesn’t do all that much damage unless you DHC trick. she is pretty good at the DHC trick, though, and if you build a team around it, Dirt Nap mixups are incredibly cheesy and strong… that’s the only thing she has that I would call “cheap” though.
Akuma is still slept on right now, I think… most people have him on their team and haven’t bothered to learn how to play him, which is too bad because he’s good on point. possibly one of the best anchors you could hope for… builds top tier levels of meter with some of his combos (loop combo that builds 2 bars and does 900k-1mil with two supers), has ways of covering his own rushdown (superjump air fb), tricky corner crossups, and 900k full screen hit confirms
He is obviously trolling. He’s easily amongst the 10 worst characters in the game, on point. For assists, he has one of the best assist probably amongst the top 10 for assists. Practically every team he is on he is the weakest link. He does do good damage but so can many other characters. If Iron man was top 10 he would be like the Iron man from MvC2, in MvC3 they nerfed him a little too hard. His level 3 doesn’t travel full screen like most people think it does. And just to clarify, I don’t think he is the worst character in the game, I do think he is amongst the worst though.
It was interesting to hear Viscant talk about Wesker the other night at WNF. Basically said people aren’t taking matchups into consideration when tiering characters. He said that Wesker had bad matchups against some of the top characters, I think specifically he said Ammy, Wolverine, Zero, and maybe Phoenix? I don’t like the Magneto matchup for Wesker either.
I do feel like he has the edge against Dante though which is huge. Mostly due to the fact that he is one of the few characters that can weather a Dante combo and if he touches dante once then that china doll breaks to fast haha.
Yep. MvC3 is a great game. People get so damn butthurt if something new isnt the same as what’s comfortable. And people love to complain. Hell, im complaining about complaining right now. Rejoice and sing!