How good would Storm be without the glitch? A good point? Would characters like Trish and C.Viper be more viable if DHC was removed from the game? I know plenty of people that use Mags on point because of this when they would use someone else if no DHC. Same can be said about Storm or any DHC starter. DHC one combo kills EVERY character. Now this is my opinion and I’m not right or wrong and neither are you, however I really, REally think if DHC was gone you would see way more verity characters. Plenty of good point characters, but why use them if Mags, and Storm are easier to use and have 2+million damage because of DHC. Thats just what Im trying to say. I don’t think it hurts the game because its still really fun, but I think the game would be better if it was evolving in a different way. (no DHC)
Just to keep on topic somewhat lol, I think Top 5 is pretty much figured out, wolverine, magneto, dante, wesker, ammy/zero. Other charatcers such as taskmaster are Very closely behind. (I’m not counting phoenix we all know)
C.Viper can kill without the DHC glitch so there’s no reason for C.Viper player to care. Step your execution up kill in one combo any way.
Trish is really slept on and she can start and end the DHC glitch which is something new people have found. Her peekaboo trap assist allows any character in the game to start the DHC glitch making her possibly the most creative use of the DHC glitch yet.
Nah…Magneto and Storm will still be really strong (well more like Magneto will still be gdlk and Storm will still be…a threat) without DHC glitch and there wont be much difference just because of it going away. People aren’t even good enough with the other characters that actually require work any way for it to matter. People will be too complacent with MSS and Wesker, Wolvie, Phoenix to care.
Admittedly I only really picked up X23 because most people said she sucked but I never saw people do anything interesting with her and I wanted to use her to see how an underused character would work with the DHC glitch. Playing her though has taught me a lot about how she will be used after the DHC glitch and I see a lot of potential in general.
I would argue that the DHC glitch helps some of the character who aren’t quite up there able to compete a little bit better. Like X23 and Deadpool (being starters are huge) benefit from it greatly I feel and is able to keep them more competitive… I think it helps them more than an already cracked out character like Magneto.
Personally I kind of hope that the glitch stays in the game. I don’t want them to take out all of the powerful/broken/whatever you want to call it stuff to make it a stale fighter like SF4 (which is why i really don’t play it competitively). I like shit that is really good and should be purposely be abused, makes getting around it/playing it much more interesting.
Most knew that 100% of the cast wouldn’t be perfectly viable, to think that in a game that is played like Marvel is pretty foolish. However, I do feel like as of right now there are 15-20 viable characters (some DEFINITELY better than others) while another 5-7 can compete giving the right team. Leaving 10-12 or so at a immediate disadvantage when added to a sqaud. This is what makes a game exciting though, when you see someone use one of those weak characters and body a Magneto, Wesker, Phoenix team… it makes that that much more hype. If we had a very non diverse game where everybody was theoretically a 5-5 matchup there wouldn’t be hype shit like that.
You have a good to broken assist, and if you build your team properly a THC that can instant overhead, as well as many other properties ( VJoe/Chun Li, Hsien-Ko, and someone to hold them in place seems like the best one. Many invincible frames, instant overhead, and can combo afterwards… Just explaining this because seems most people are not aware) Hsien-Ko is pretty good when shes not actually fighting. Treat her as such. Shes actually got more tools than say Tron or Haggar when in the assist spot, but shes worse when fighting so dont let it get to here or if you die too much pick a different character. Honestly people dont see it yet maybe but Hsien-Ko is gonna be a VERY good assist type character. If she could perform very well outside of that role…she’d be broken. She’s already not horrible alone, shes kinda tricky if you haven’t fought a good one and can tack on annoying damage with pendulum, her weird dash, item toss which is enough to get her the time she needs to tag out/possibley finish up the job of killing weakened characters if needed. Shes also a good anti zoner. I don’t see why so many people write her off as shit.
Honestly I dont think (at least anymore) that DHC glitch being removed will make much difference. Should they remove it? Sure why not. but the game’s balance should still be looked at
NO WAY IN HELL IS TRISH SLEPT ON. That broad is top 3 point character at match start.
Look at someone like Dante. Great assists AND great on point. Wesker too. I’m not asking for Hsien Ko to have Chun Li type speed, but she can barely even moves around the screen in her current state. Though one thing I DO enjoy doing is killing enemy X Factors by Superjump > airdash > Senpuu Bu x3.
Storm: After some experimenting and watching I realized the fact that when a team is designed correctly for her Storm can take advantage of her great mix up by converting it into a dead character which makes her more viable on point. 8 frame punish for anything near the ground that leads into a lot of damage, and safish DHC with ice storm, her role on a team is very good, just her role solo is far less scary unless she has X-factor. That’s the reason I think she deserves A-.
Chris:I feel he covers a very important niche with a lot of angles and situations controlled that other characters can’t, being able to deal with Air to ground zoning, trijumps and more is helpful. Great battery.
As for Deadpool and Sent, other than your previously mentioned thoughts on Chris and Storm, who do you think that’s above them they’re better than? C characters aren’t bad, they’re just not as amazing as the other characters above them. Deadpool may deserve a C+ though unsure.
For She-Hulk: People who aren’t greedy enough to rush her down beat her, her movement is honestly pretty bad aside from her ground dash if people just play lame I feel she’s really not a threat, if she gets in she’s a threat but that can be said of every character. I don’t think she’s better than any character above her in the list.
Haggar isnt slow.His wavedash is slept on and using an assist to cover you whilst doing cr.H to ghetto teleport makes him somewhat mobile.Also people should be jumping around with different normals, notably L,H and S.Especially S.I actually think S is much better than pipe as the hitbox is still pretty big and it can cross opponents up leading to 700k combos or death combos if you have a DHC glitch ender on your team.
I agree with you that Haggar is slow, but compared to Hsien KO hes got amazing movement.
I think Haggar is really good as long as you put him on point with Wesker gunshot for stupid damage relaunch combos, unblockables, and an assist that can get you in.Haggar,Wesker,Doom/Sent is really good.
I play Haggar, Taskmaster, Doom but I just cant drop Task for wesker.This team can still do DHC glitch though and overall it has more DHC synergy than the above teams along with the fact that Taskmaster is one of my favourite characters which is why I’m sticking with it.
Haggar as an anchor (like people originally thought he was meant to be) is garbage though.And on some teams he is just unplayable.
I agree lei lei is not a good point character and that dantes assists are good. But tbh, do you really want to compare dantes assists with armored pendulum?
Naw, I’m not saying they’re on the level of armored pendulum. AP is great, but it’s not nearly good enough to make up for how bad she is on point. All I’m asking for is a bit more speed. That’s it, no damage buffs, no hitbox buffs, nothing. Just faster movement.
I think even if the DHC trick is eventually removed from the game that Storm will remain at least a solid character choice. Two words: Hail Storm. Reason: Safe(more or less), full screen DHC AND one of the best hypers at blowing up assists.
One requires meter to fully exploit and requires playing a shitty character and the other doesn’t. I honestly think that’s a fair thing to say when comparing Hsien-Ko to most of the other characters in this game. It’s also unfortunate as that’s a lot of potential down the drain design-wise.
You can only get the instant overhead with the Gong assist, which is a pretty bad assist compared to her Senpu Bu. It might be a consideration if the rest of your team works with the instant overhead, but the list of characters where you can get a good THC going is pretty small. This from the guy who originally posted [media=youtube]z6NtOmZBkj8[/media]
Hail storm is really risky on point against a lot of good characters who can react to it, DHCing into it I agree is pretty godlike though, especially for blowing up assists, shockwave + hailstorm puts the hurt on assists hard. Without DHC glitch I feel she’d be much less useful, but still useful.
Dante is #1 definitely but he was top tier anyways if not #1 before.
But 900K+ without XF, no meter/no assists and 1 million + with meter, no XF/no assists of any hit or crossup is just too freaking retarded. Add this to the ease of hitting with his wack hitbox sword.
The best stuff is by MarlinPie since he has godlike execution and can be found at on the break stream/youtube here at [media=youtube]LhdoGP3Ju9w]YouTube - The Break Weekly #107 - W1 - UncleBlanka VS [AG[/media]
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Haggar… has the most ghetto rigged options of all the tanks imo. lol flight mode (air command throw) to stall your fall, and the roll (which lets you call assists at any time during)
pretty much all his normals go into the ground pipe and unblockable setups are just deadly, your gettin bounced and there isnt a damn thing you can do about it.
Of course Lariet is his best assist but using haggar solely as an assist char is foolish beceuse he is a tank and we know how they do all alone. So in certain situations I prefer the pipe to extend my tasky (or anyone else with a self otg) combos dramatically.
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