vanilla lariat was bullshit.
but i agree that sent isnt tops… i just think hes mid/bottom top. its hard to see him as #1 with so many easily exploitable weaknesses. i still get pwnd by him… but ive gotten pwnd by half the cast. ammy is looking to me to take the top spot… but its hard to put her there when she isnt regularly crushing entire teams like sent.
but yeah cant ever sleep on robot. EVER.
-dime
my Take on things in simple Terms
unknown tier: MODOK, V. Joe C. Viper Shuma(id say solid A tier, but not yet) Jill
like unfukwitable tier- Dark Phoenix
S Ammy
S- Taskmaster Dr. Doom Dante
A+ Wolverine, She-Hulk
A solid tier… Wesker Zero Storm, Spencer, Felicia, Super-skrull, Deadpool, Regular Phoenix, Dormammu
A- (good but to fat to get out of his own way) tier- Sentinel
B-tier - Trish, Chun-li, Morrigan, Hsien-ko, Arthur, Haggar, Hulk, Captian America, Tron-bonne, Spider-man, X-23, Chris
C-tier Iron Man Ryu Thor(for now we will see)
Derp…and Magneto is A+ tier too I think
Its my 2 cents… but thats all it really is
^ You forgot some characters, and I think you’re overrating Doom, felicia, and skrull a bit, underrating iron man and tron a bit.
Of course any character is going to look “obviously upper rung” when you start and end with a list of pros.
You’re forgetting that he lacks good options off the X axis (especially upward), has a lot of startup/recovery on most of his moves, and doesn’t have particularly strong mixups, that his mobility isn’t particularly amazing ( again, limited by linearity of his attacks and lack of covering options ) and that his 100%s are corner specific. Best XF “bennifit” is a bit on the subjective side too ( considering the previously mentioned weaknesses and the minimal benefit from XF’s scaling caps ) though he definitely has one of the better X-factors.
You’re probibly Right about Iron Man… Tron is hard to place at this point but I’ll leave Her there for now, this is early still.
I think the damage upgrade on his x factor is pure overkill. He can situationally 100% with a couple meters, why does he need to do 2 million damage?
Any character in the game can one touch kill you in level 3 xfactor… not to mention many are getting 100%'s with 2-3 meters w/ DHC tricks.
And it’s not like the speed boost gives him nigh unblockable speed (Chun, Storm, Phoenix) or something.
Also, his chip game isn’t a death sentence in level 3 XF. You can always Super Jump HSF (or punish it), as well as laser spit. He’s gotta go for plasma storm.
Certainly no Phoenix chip.
Not that this ultimately means a damn thing, but when my Wesker offence works it’s like my Lambda offence in BlazBlue. All frame traps all day, we don’t do mixups son. Mashing S is part of that sometimes, if not the most efficient. Lambda was more than happy to push you out as far as you would go on a block string though, since DDDD was waiting anyways.
The thing about Sentinel is he has some crazy hitboxes still. What do you do about frying pan? You block that shit because you aren’t beating it. It’s not as bad as Dante’s jump S which seems to beat everything ever, hits all the way down and yet has to be blocked high, oh, and it delays his fall to fuck with any counter timing to boot, but you have to respect that damn thing which makes pressuring Sentinel hard in a lot of situations that you can run over other characters. On the other hand DA BOOT is about the most mindless anti-air ever in terms of spacing seeing as how it covers about half the fucking screen. Being huge works both ways, just like Sagat’s standing roundhouse.
SFIV 'Gief is a fair comparison, but SFIV 'Gief was a top tier character. He may be a scrub character, he may get shut down, and he may have terrible matchups, but BS is BS.
dog vs sentinel is not a washout. yes, justin has slaughtered many sentinels with the dog, but justin makes any character look free.
however, dark phoenix vs sentinel IS a washout. but who doesnt she beat?.
yes sentinel is a bit scrubby and people are discovering more and more anti sentinel tactics everyday.
however, real sentinel players (not ones using him as an assist and mashes s all day) won’t let his weaknesses be his downfall.
although he probably won’t evolve as heavily as he did in mvc2, his potential in mvc3 is not maxed out yet.
remember in mvc2 when he lost to cable for free and also lost to doom 
at the end, the matchup was 4-6 at worst and he slaughtered doom.
so is sentinel top tier in mvc3? why the fuck not? is he number 1? maybe, maybe not. does it matter tho?
Her assist alone makes her better than most of your B-tiers.
Please stop comparing sent to SF4 gief people… more like vanilla Sagat
If you don’t think Sent is overpowered you are either in denial or he’s on your team and your still in denial. Sure Ammy does real good against Sent, but with 800,000 health, all sent needs is one launcher and one brain dead easy combo later she’s dead. On the other hand, for ammy to defeat sent, she needs to lame it out with beads or land about four combos while making no mistakes to take down his 1,300,000 health…
But that’s why I dropped Ammy for Phoenix, haha
Vanilla Sagat had no bad matchups, whereas Sentinel already has several bad ones just like vanilla gief.Characters like Ammy and Taskmaster blow him up and they are used in high level tournament play.
I think people are underestimating Skrull. I don’t think he’s on the top, but he definitely seems solid to me. He has useful assists (though they’re not amazing, granted), and his damage output is pretty good. He’s an extremely good anchor just because of the insane chip his fireball super is able to do, especially with lvl 3 Xfactor.
Just from what I have seen in terms of their options, I suspect Viper, Skrull and Iron Man to become real threats as soon as people start to use them more often and get down their execution. Spider-Man possibly, as well.
I agree with half of this statement.
This is for everyone: The main fact that DP is up on the tiers is cause she wins against Sentinel. There is not much he can do against her, his extremely huge size makes him get hit against those SJ H TK Shots, which, against other characters, will dissipate before it reaches them or they have enough time to go under them. Sent can’t do that.
DP (LMAO) or Phoenix is kinda like the standard bar that most characters have to pass to be considered upper tier. She is strong but I don’t think most people know how to beat her. Either have a good character that can runaway from regular Phoenix before she has the ability to transform and run out the clock or run from DP after she has used her X-factor and the fireballs won’t reach you. Watch her health drain as her homing shots blow up before touching you. Random super. Chip Damage. She still has no life. IMO, Dante, Zero, and Task own her. All have some tools to deal with her. IMO anyone with a horizontal beam super or air beam super can shut down Phoenix. LOL you can probably random maximum Spider her and get her as well. I’ve XFC’ed Maximum Wesker a couple times and killed her outright just cause of its tracking ability. I’m not gonna go into what Dorm or Mag can do to her.
Sent is still Sent people. No character can really own Sentinel if played properly. The fact that most people are saying they can rush down Sents mean they are playing Shitty players. Sent has to spit from far away, fly in the air and use his invincible air super to properly win, land a random medium punch or crouching medium kick and gameover. DP is really the only character to effectively shut down Sent. Ammy has some advantages against Sent but Sent can still destroy her.
They dropped Sent’s life to under a mil (900K?)
Lmao he’s going to be easier to kill when he comes out as an assist and instant overheads are even going to be more painful.
Capcom is listening to online players for balance.
Since they actually listened and nerfed (the hell out of) Sentinel, did anyone check to see if they tweaked values with level 3 x-factor?
I’m not sure if shaving 400k off of his life was the right answer though…
where are you guys getting this info from?
i can’t help but feel like that was a big mistake, his high health really didn’t do much for him when he was getting zoned out, now his assist calls are more dangerous, but even then i thought it was his crazy damage that people complained the most about since they were blocking challenged
There’s more changes being reported.
Allegedly:
XF was toned down as well.
Spencer lost his corner loop.
Has anyone tested for Phoenix changes?
Don’t know enough about her to test it myself.
sentinel with low life wow! i just wanted them to get rid of the frying pan ground bounce. all those hours in the lab coming up with 1.3 million damage combos are out the window.
Jesus, the game’s only been out a month and they’re already patching it? Sentinel with 900k doesn’t even make fucking sense.
God this generation sucks.