MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

THIS. Seriously, megacrash and BBQ were some of the best implemented mechanics I’ve played in any Capcom fighter. Was useful and strategic without being overpowered like XFC.

You know everytime Magneto trijumps on Strider you wished you had a burst.

no thanks

The only thing that I can readily see being fucked up about Baroque in MvC3 would be C. Viper with it.

C-Viper pretty much gets to Baroque for free, it’s just execution heavy like everything else.

/Troll face

Baroque in MvC3 would be insane. Forget unblockables, talk about three way unblockables. With less cooldown on assists and the easier time crossups work in this game not to mention special move confirmations being a lot stronger, it would really break the game. Magneto would become a rainbow colored beacon of death, raining purple hellfire from the sky.

While Baroque is acceptable in TvC, I think that it would take too much tweaking to make it work in MvC3. I’ve always liked the idea of roman/rapid canceling though, so if they got it to work in Super MvC3 I am all for it. Balancing would have to be redone of course.

I am unfamiliar with TvC, what does a Baroque entail besides a loss of red health and some type of cancel?

Its basically a fancy word to say “use google”

Can’t help being a dick at every opportunity eh Paper?

In order to activate Baroque, you have to have some red bar in your life bar. Once you do, you can activate Baroque by simply pressing A/B/C+P (you’ll know you’ve activated it because you’ll look like a rainbow). Baroque is unique because it gives you the ability to extend moves and combos to deal more damage. It also gives you the ability to chain supers that may not be possible or very difficult to do normally. The more red bar you have in your health bar, the more damage you will do in Baroque mode. However, you have to be in a middle of a normal/special move to activate it. It is advised to use Baroque within a combo. For example, a Ryu combo with Baroque thrown in may look like this: s.A -> c.A -> s.B -> c.B -> s.C -> F+C -> A+P (Baroque) -> dash (tap F two times) -> s.A -> c.A -> s.B -> c.B -> s.C -> F+C -> QCB+A xx QCF+AB. The only drawback is once you activate Baroque, you lose your red bar, which means you lose your “potential” amount of returned health.

except burst doesnt do shit against resets and throw setups.

on a lighter note. i like wesker vs magneto. it feels like what strider vs magneto should have been like.

Except strider’s health was so low he didn’t need resets. X_X

I’ll body that shit son.

Honestly, at everyone saying combo breakers are stupid, X-Factor is even more stupid. X-Factor literally means my grandmother can get a CKC, and it also means decent players are much more likely to get openings on better players. If I’m up 3 to 1 (characters), it should be virtually impossible to lose, but with X-Factor it happens way too frequently. Quote me on this, in Marvel Super 3 (or whatever) there will be an on/off switch and/or X-Factor will be nerfed.

No I wish i hadn’t gotten hit instead of whining for a new mechanic to help my sloppy defense.

The point is, you’re gonna get hit regardless of how good your defense is. Characters with strong mixups (Magneto, Zero, Wesker, Dante, etc) they WILL open you up regardless of how good your defense is, and once they do, it’s a ton of damage, most likely a 100% and YOU HADN’T DONE ANYTHING YET!

I understand why you guys don’t want combo breakers but really the only other solution is to power up anti-air assists, make them quicker and tack on invincibility frames just like part 2. That solves the whole problem without adding in combo breakers and tbh, it should have been this way in the first place.

I dont miss the inv AAAs but MVC3 probably does need some other than Lariet

couldn’t agree with that statement more.

combo breakers ruin the world in every game but ngnt4 yo LOL

You just gotta open em up first. Or have tron/haggar assist blow up their mix up. Or have a pocket phoenix.

Characters don’t open up your defense. Good players do. L2p.

What about a tier list for average skill people ?

that would be extremely impossible.