Deadpool is secret top teir
Yes, this does seem better.
She-hulk can DHC trick into zero, but having hail storm as a back up does make sense. Also the DHC trick from storm to zero seems easier
By using two hits of shulks super?
Taking Out the Trash (DP Super)
I’m sorry but I respectfully disagree. The two are completely different scenarios. The whole idea of Wolverine and Zero is that you have a lot more room for error under those conditions as you can afford to take a bit of punishment before you really get going. Phoenix cannot. Secondly, you see lots more scenarios where the point character takes a beating an DHC’s out and comes back later on to dish it out.
If you looked back at my earlier posts under the Phoenix forums, you’d see I was among the first fews to talk about how Phoenix point plays really well but in hindsight I’d say I was wrong on that call. For starters, Doom missiles completely shuts her down. She also can’t afford to take chip. Her offense is great with an assist covering her but it’s not really any more dominant in priority than other people’s rushdown. It is certainly very very good and playable but I wouldn’t say it’s worth giving up Dark Phoenix with XFC 3 for. The fact is, the 50/50 mixup she gets to instant kill an incoming character and easily hitconfirmed ToD’s in that mode is just simply too much. Her XFC in Dark Phoenix needs to be nerfed or a bit milder, the Medium Dark Phoenix TK trap should not wall bounce. I’m not saying she’s imbalanced broken but rather she’s a broken concept because she reduces the endgame to a fifty fifty guessing game regardless of how well the previous moments played out.
I can’t DHC from Spidey into She Hulk
Wow that was pretty easy
How much damage are we REALLY talking about here? A combo? That ain’t shit. EVERYBODY dies within a combo. You must be talking about random hits here and there. And if you pop HF, chip means very little. Granted, she still can’t take many hits (she can’t take anywhere near the amount anybody else can) but that’s the risk you take. To get rid of a Zero or a Wolverine starting off the match, I would very much consider it.
But again… I’m not talking about using Jean vs everybody on point. I’m talking about very specific situations, ie vs Zero/Wolverine/Magneto/She-Hulk/Wesker to start off the match.
How is Doom’s missiles even that much of a problem? Phoenix is the most mobile character in the game. You can even use her air normals to get around from it in the air.
And how come people keep bringing up opponent assists vs Phoenix? Phoenix is on point. What do you think I’m gonna do? NOT build my team around her? You think I’m not gonna have Tron’s Fire/Sent’s Drones/Doom’s Missiles? Think I’m just gonna run in there naked?
NOBODY IS SAYING THEY SHOULD USE PHOENIX ON POINT ALL THE TIME. Just very specific situations. And I can see it working. We know DPh is the superior form.
It wall bounces without XFC. And if it shouldn’t wall bounce, then Wolverine’s Berserker Slash shouldn’t be cancellable or be so fast, Viper’s Focus shouldn’t be unblockable, Wesker’s gun shouldn’t be cancellable, Magneto shouldn’t be able to do infinite air dashes in Flight, Tron’s Fire shouldn’t be invincible on the way in, X-23’s Dirt Nap shouldn’t have her go invisible or be unblockable, etc, etc, etc.
It is this concept… the concept of “Waaaah. This is hard. Make it easier for me.” that works my last friggin nerve. It’s still a 50/50. NOT a win button.
So what? There are quite a number of 50-50 guessing moments in this game. Hell… Wolverine’s Berseker Slash is a damn-near unseeable 50-50 left/right guessing game.
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How is it a “broken concept”…
a. To have the most pathetic life bar ever?
b. To have to get your bars maxxed out to reach the 2nd form (thus nerfing the other characters on your team)?
c. When you get to that 2nd form, you still have the most pathetic life bar ever?
d. To have your life bar drain at a pretty significant rate in the 2nd form?
i wish viper can fly
Or hover. I’d like it if she could hover. That’d make sense and be pretty cool.
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Maybe they’ll let her hover in Super MvC3.
You can do unblockable set ups with Spidey and She Hulk, somehow that seems a lot better than DHC.
Edit: Maximum Spider into Emerald Cannon, Crawler Assault into Emerald Cannon. You are either trolling or saying random shit at this point.
yeah hover would be cool. idk how it would help her though.
if i could change her id remove overhead property on her burn kicks in exchange for larger seismo pillars. let em reach the top of the screen, and widen the pillars (bigger than jam session but not as big as dormammu’s towers), give them more active frames but remove the ability to jump cancel on whiff and increase the startup.
i dont think that would be overpowered. actually shes a good character as she is now, id just rather play her closer to how i would in SF
Viper doesn’t need buffs.
Hsien-Ko, Arthur, Jill, Cap Am, Ryu, and Thor need buffs.
Hsien-Ko just needs an accurate representation of her VS incarnation. Where she could cancel Pendulum and keep the momentum, her dashes were much faster, and spike balls super was instant recovery, first head overhead, then low.
The cancel of pendulum could actually allow for non BBCS air combos, something she really suffers from.
full screen towers?
that would be too good especially since you can jump cancel them into one another.
Very true, people need to stop crying about phoenix and start crying about other characters, J/k:rofl:. I thought it was funny the other day when after I beat this dude, he sent me a long message saying how I’m cheap for using phoenix but throughout the whole match he was mashing that Tron assist.
Phoenix isn’t that bad, there’s alot of matches that I won because of her, and there’s alot of matches I lost because of her
to be fair he gave her a couple nerfs as well, no whiff jump cancel seismic hammer would leave her pretty wide open no
I’m starting to think that Zero actually deserves a spot in the S Tier. He’s the #6, imo, but he’s very superior to any possible #7 character. (assuming the classical top 5 posted a thousand times here.)
Yes, I like TvC system better too. Mega Crash is a nice mechanic.
About the X-Factor, it’s hard to say… I want to say it should be like Baroque, but I’m not really pr0 at TvC, so…
What do you guys think of Morrigan?
she’s ass. seriously though, i think she’s playable but she suffers a ton from depending on meter to get any decent damage and she ain’t really much of a threat outside astral vision. and it also doesn’t help that she requires decent execution to do some of her better stuff that’s still ass in the damage output category. and she also have one of the worst set of assists in the game outside of dark harmonizer which still doesn’t validate her being on your squad when you can place ammy who have the same assist with the plus of her being an superior character. and her dhc options are very shitty. and her mixup is very obvious even with an assist because she doesn’t have a potent high/low game and her dash is very arkward which will just let you know she’ll go overhead. so you’ll more than likely just have to watch out for a unblockable if she have a low assist. if, not just block overhead and block whatever assist she got.
imo, morrigan fits best as anchor because lv 3 xfactor astral vision be on some ikaruga shit.
Dark Harmonizer is much better than Bloom. It builds meter about 50% faster and is much less vulnerable. The only downside is, as you said, it’s attached to Morrigan instead of Ammy.
I love fly-cancelling with Morrigan and I love her keepaway but her fireballs can be overpowered and outquicked. She needs something buffed. I’d love it if she could combo off of Vector Drain and be able to do it in the air. Are there any good DHC Trick combos she can do?
Her damage is so bad, man. FlC Shadow blade and FLC Soul Fist combos don’t do dick for damage for how difficult they are. She needs to do more damage. Damage scaling annihilates her.
I think Thor just needs that Hammer Throw from the Thor movie. Make it go through/absorb a lot of other projectiles, but not hit on return. And charge that baby. Of course we know the real problem is his normals are so friggin slow, but I kinda like that he’s slow. He’s different and I dig that about him.
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And if you wanna make him broke, make his Mighty Smash invincible on start up. :lol: