MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

He might not be the best at anything(damage and meter gain disagree but w/e) but he’s definitely one of the best at anything he does and at everything in general.

Dante’s only weakness would be relatively slow normals, but that’s upset by his stupid range.

If he had a command grab, I think he would be hands down the most versatile character in FG history.

I agree he would make the book

i find it kind of ridiculous how a wesker player cries about dante like a little baby. i just don’t get if he’s a troll or if he’s really that retarted.

maybe sakeido should play dante by himself if he already discovered that stuff other dante players still have to “wait” for.

lol, that’s so laughable…

Considering how easy it is to build meter, her needing to start off with .75 meters would not be a significant amount.

QCF+H would like a word with you.

The only thing that makes wesker scary is his command throw and xfactor lvl 3

Without a assist to back him he is just solid…

Dante on the other hand…

I don’t think either is OP.

25 frame startup command grab is not quite the same as an option selectable f+H

vs low health character (most point chars) doing an X-23 DHC glitch combo into Wesker leaves you with less than half a bar, so either you leave Wesker out and use him to run your mixup and then go for an exchange, or you tag back to X-23 and do a reset combo instead of a ToD. significant difference from dante or mags.

congrats on the great post, keep up the good work

yeah, as long as people like you hit the boards, i’ll definitely do! i give you my word! ^^

Dante outside of DHC glitch is just fine. Scrubs don’t get a lot of damage output w/ him because of his execution barrier and good players can get excellent damage out of him because they put in the work.

Wesker is fine exactly where he is. Like I said many pages ago, he’s balanced. He doesn’t do a terrible amount of damage on his BnB (his hitstun deterioration works as intended), his lv1’s requires perfect setup, he gets rushed (unfortunately teleports and gunshot teleports leave him unsafe especially when your opponent is calling assists and/or flailing, risk of random supers, etc), Wesker has answers to anti-air and anti-projectile spam but difficult to use. I wouldn’t say risky because it CAN be mastered.

Other than that, Wesker has good control of space with his gunshot, combo on gunshot hit confirm, command grab that leads into full combos, best OTG in the game, 50/50 mixups, teleports where you have to be mindful of the space (both in front of, and behind your opponent), X-factor lv3 gun loop, there’s some more but I have to go for now

This (its all about teams not character) but i believe people are sleeping on skrull can kill any character with one touch x factor lv 1 and and he’s damage does 600k average damage also deadpool if you are good at zoning i believe deadpool will rise up for example i think deadpool beat both wesker and wolverine. MODOK is another character slept on

tier list as a lot of factor to consider such as point utility(2) anchor. akuma for example is better as an anchor due to low health high damage and xfactor lv 3 205% = safe hurricane kick and beam bullshit easily beat any anchor including D.phoenix.

Point Wolverine, Taskmaster Wesker, Skrull, Deadpool, Magneto, V.joe, Chris, Modok, Phoenix, She hulk, Viper, X-23, Hulk, Hagger (with otg assist rapes in corner) Spencer

Utility, Zero, Storm, Iron man, Chris, Hagger, Modok,Amaterasu, T Bonne, Dorm, Ryu, Trish, Sentinal, Dante, Chun li, Viper, Doom, Morrigan, X-23 Cap america Taskmaster, Hsein Ko, Arthur

Anchor Dorm, Akuma, Skrull, Ironman, Phoenix, Sentinal, Arthur, Spencer, Amaterasu, X-23, Wesker

what position i think suite and benefit the each character the most

Point should be able to kill any charcater and DHC
Utility and anchor one with at least great assist. utility finish point job if point dies and DHC well
Anchor x factor has to be fearsome

Spencer is overrated as an anchor, people need to stop dickriding Combofiend. I think hes much better on point.

Oh, and Taskmaster can do over a million damage by himself starting with 0 bars and still come out ahead with a little meter. And it isnt even that hard to do, lol.

TOD combos everywhere.

Do people really still use “They can one touch the entire cast with a x-factor level 1 combo!”? Everybody in the cast can do that, and some don’t even need X-Factor to one touch.

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Wow look at that. Arthur must be top tier too.

@MILF

why can’t dorm be point what am I missing here?
and it can’t be because he anchors well because you have other chars in both slots

he Dhc too well and x factor with meter is much more fearsome imo. spencer as anchor shit on projectile anchor and as 199% buffer can also cancel bionic arm if blocked i put spencer as point and anchor not dickriding anybody. i play spencer as secondary before Combofiend dickriding bullshit

Took a look at Zero’s frame data. Wow he is a beast. If Zero gets in, the only option you have is to push block his Shippuga or s.H, both of which leaves Zero with an advantage on guard. if Zero gets pushblocked, he can call an assist and Hienkyaku to get right back in which actually might be worse because ambiguous crossups involving him are difficult to block.

Dorm can definitely be played on point. Saw a good one last night by a guy that came down from Chicago.

Spencer is a point character. If he’s not, I’d like to see his health get nerfed.

Maybe so, but hes not scary at all up close unless he has assist coverage. If the other guy still has Xfactor, suddenly Bionic Arm isnt that big of a problem anymore.

Youre wasting his potential as a DHC glitch starter by keeping him for the end. It makes no sense to save a character whos so versatile and can 1 shot kill so easily (with assists) without Xfactor.

A character that can be lamed out so easily doesnt make a very good anchor either imo.

Tier list not based on the DHC glitch

Tier 1
Wesker
Magneto
Wolverine
Amaterasu
Taskmaster
Dante
Sentinel
She Hulk

Tier 2
Dormammu
Phoenix
Akuma
X-23
Zero
Doctor Doom
Storm
Hulk
Trish
Spencer
Chris

Tier 3
C. Viper
Super Skrull
Morrigan
Felicia
Chun Li
Deadpool
Tron
Shuma Gorath
M.O.D.O.K.
Hsien Ko
Ryu
Spiderman
Viewtiful Joe
Captain America
Haggar

Tier 4
Thor
Iron man
Arthur
Jill

The reason why I put Phoenix where she is because it only takes one combo to take her out or a level 3 hyper combo, or even an X factored hyper move and because of that she doesn’t deserve to be in tier 1, she deserves to be in tier 2.

As for Jill I haven’t seen her winning much. Even though she has the quickest low to overhead game that’s the best thing about her pretty much. If I’m wrong about any character it would be Jill for sure. But, right now I feel like she belongs there.

spencer is good as point and anchor spencer is much more difficult to zone out than you think and also hit like a truck when he’s in and assist killer.

i disagree with a few of your placements but i do agree with jill being a shitty character. i thought i was the only guy who felt jill was complete utter shit.

Im not saying he gets zoned per se. Im saying he cant really get any significant damage if his opponent is running away.

only good jill i have seen it flash and DLC is a ass strategy capcom not buying the character and i would like to play shuma-gorath