MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

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How goes he have great damage output? Everyone says this about their character. I’ve seen a 700k 1 meter and that’s about it without level 3’s involved. Is there some amazing shit I’m missing here?

He doesn’t arguably have the best command grab, get that outta here. Sent and Wesker’s are both better just off the top of my head.

Pairing him up with a gdlk assist and everything he does is safe? Once again sounds like nearly every single character in the game.

Like this is my issue with anyone trying to talk some of these characters up, the things that supposedly make them good are practically universal (assists) or DHC glitch nullified (pretty much any top tier char that you actually claim ‘low damage’ on has the DHC glitch so they have one shot kills anyway).

Mr. Wesker and Miss Trish would like a conversation with you…

His resets are ass compared to Weskers too.

I think <insert unfashionable character> is at least upper mid. They can do <insert random figure higher than 600,000> off any hit and with <insert universally amazing assist> their offense is really scary, plus in XF they are lethal!

I’ve been playing Joe, I wouldn’t call him top tier but I don’t see how anyone who knows how to play him would call him low tier.

Instead of damage, you do about 600k and give slow status, from there it’s an easy 700k and its a dead character, or if they pull them out in time, the slowed character is even more vunurable as permenant slow assist, plus voomerang spam, charge voomerang, bomb otg, counter super, anti beam super, and about 5-6 ways to get in and out.

although i will say Joe is top tier as flashiest combos. Proof: [media=youtube]wRdnOpIuXog[/media]

how the fuck is x-23 a better glitch starter than someone like dante? i don’t play x-23 as much as used to so maybe deviljin or whoever can educate me on this matter.

EDIT: and as for you’re zero vid. that shit took 2 bars and look really impractical. and even if zero damage was better than dante ( which i doubt ) no way in hell is he a better character than him. the amount of options dante have for nearly any situation prevents zero from surpassing him. but i bet you forgot that.

she’s not, simple as that -_-
sure she’s a good glitch starter but she’s definitely not the best.

He can do 750k iirc, with one bar. That’s pretty good, that’s more than Storm, more than Trish, etc. His command grabs are great because they have so much fucking range, which is neat, he can pull of resets with a lot of range. Obviously the characters everyone are playing are going to seem better, part of that is because everyone is discovering new shit with them. I’m not even saying he’s god tier to anything, I’m just saying he’s certainly not bottom 10. Skrull is a very unique character with boatloads of potential, I honestly think people will see that in the long run, I just wish more of the better players would give him a shot. Sure every character benefits from assists, but I think Skrull especially gains a lot. I can’t wait to see where he goes in the future. And yeah, obviously I’m biased, I play Skrull, but I don’t think I’m just making up shit either.

Just because a character is good doesn’t mean he’s not low tier.

Every character in this game is viable and has good damage, and options. There are just a lot of other characters that can do better, and consistent damage without relying on resets, taccs, or very situational circumstances.

Joe isn’t BAD but he isn’t better than the majority of the cast.

skrull has one of the worst set of normals in the game. his normals are short, stubby and no priority.

the only character who has normals as bad as his is viper, but at least she has some of the best specials in the game and a whole load of them.

all of skrulls specials/supers are mediocre/unsafe. command grab is good but not enough to make him higher than most characters.

Yeah I get that low tier =/= bad. I’m just saying his got a big enough toolbox to place mid tier to lower-high tier.

i couldn’t place him at top tier because he’s not that easy to play as, the majority of his game is dodging and running away then smacking the opponent out of no where. Amaterasu and Haggar were much easier to learn, Ammy i’d say is top tier, but Haggar is low tier, spamming keeps him out way too easily, still if I can kill off zoning characters with Joe, Haggar does great.

man, i’m getting tired of these people running in here [ insert non-popular character this tier ] because this is just annoying. especially morrigan users when she have possibly some of the shittiest damage in the game. her only saving grace is astral vision and that’s not even enough. they forget about her issues like mediocre assists, horrible dhc synergy, etc.

I’m not too sure because I don’t use him but doesn’t dante need 3 meters to dhc glitch?
X-23 can do it from the word fight, but if dantes combo can build 2 meters then that doesn’t matter
and about 98% she puts them in the corner for the ender, so corner only follow ups are available (but that maybe the case for every starter)
I don’t know about her being a better starter or not I just saying what I know

dante can dhc glitch soon as the words fight appear on the screen also. and he can do it from nearly any position on the screen also. if your mid screen, do the standard titanium beast beast bnb to grapple hook, if your in the corner do whatever to reverb shock, jet stream xx crazy dance. and by the time those combos end towards the dhc glitch segment, he’ll more than likely have gained 1.5 meter. meter gaining is hardly an issue for dante.

also, dante doesn’t need 3 bars to dhc glitch. he just need 1 bar to start it up since the combo you’ll do will more than likely gain the second bar. why did you think he need 3 bars?

Is somebody starting the slow clap yet

correct me if im wrong but i thought to dhc glitch you had to hit ur oppenent with a hyper that has animation to it which is why the other guy ur debating with is say he would need 3 meters for his lv3 since thats his ONLY animation hyper

oh ok thx, I had no clue
I thought he needed to do his level 3 to start it that’s why
but if he can also do it right from the start and pushes to the corner as well, then there must be something about x-23’s that I don’t know about

^^yeah charlie88 that’s the assumption I was under

skrull relies on gimmicks and is easy to punish character. anyone who knows how to block assist will shut down skrull cause he relies on them. point and case.