LOL isn’t that the reason why Spidey is low-tier?
yer this is iron man’s main issue
I mean he can but its very hard n spacing dependant
I think she would be even better than she is now for obvious reasons… To make phoenix/dark phoenix less of a problem, just give her the same X-factor that Ammy gets (no speed boost) lower damage increase
I actually think this game would be much better if all x-factors were like Ammy’s
the game would be better without x-factor, period.
Doing that and leaving Healing Field untouched basically gives you “best character EVAR”. You could simply delete Dark Phoenix at that point and still be stupidly good, although I’m pretty sure a lot of crying would go away.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. I’m just stating facts.
I’m not sure how useful single character tier lists are in a team game. Even then, your list is still debatable.
Only character I would put in top 5 atm is Wesker.
All 5 of those chars are invaluable in any team and can be put in pretty much any team barring phoenix since she needs a team based around her.
Morrigan can be zoned out. Her dashes are cool at first and using them after following up a flight cancelled fireball is a good tactic against people without good keepaway. However, her fireball is still quite underpowered. Taskmaster’s projectiles are flat out better and his parabollic fireballs REALLY shut down her Soul Fist>FlC game and overpower her Soul Fist>FlC>Soul Fist>FLC game. Magneto’s EM Disruptor just overpowers it as well. Plasma Beam, and Unibeam too.
She’s got a good keepaway game against rushdown characters with limited air mobility like Wolverine and X-23 (who use moves to get in as opposed dashing/flying/shooting something and going in behind it). I wish she did more damage. Too much work for combos that don’t hit hard at all.
Meter assist is such a mixed bag. Unless you have either A) a character that is completely self sufficient and/or B) another assist that completely owns everything else (like Tron’s fire) it’s hard to justify it’s use as Shadow Blade is just flat out better for defense.
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That would be bad… for opposing Phoenix players. You would have to tweak Healing Field as well as some other things. Think about it…
Phoenix already builds meter faster than anyone in the game. Getting her to Level 3 wouldn’t be difficult at all ESPECIALLY if you put her in the 2 spot/lynchpin spot. She has combos that can build 2 meters without any kind of difficulty. You’re gonna give her 750 health with HF? That’s like giving her 1100 health for a good amount of time with only combos that push her out of HF range (like a combo into Million Dollars) or hypers that turn her HF off really being able to kill her.
Then you want DPh to be accessible on command. Really? How long do you think it’d take before someone is able to combo in DPh activation? Is that what you want? Jill’s Mad Beast actually stays on for a pretty long time, man. Oh god. Imagine this…
Magneto/Phoenix/Doom. Magneto does one of his combos that build 2-3 meters, then does DHC trick into HF. Jean kills said characters and build another 2 meters during it (and believe me when I tell you, it isn’t hard for her to do this at all). Character dies as Jean. Jean turns into Dark Phoenix and is waiting until the next character jumps in. With Doom’s missiles. And she already activated HF.
Is that what you want?
Couldn’t you say the same about Tron’s fire assist?
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Or Doom’s missiles? Or Sent’s drones?
like the post before me, not a lot of people plays spiderman b/c web swing is dp motion.
I just feel magneto is the better iron man. Reason why i still play him causes hes one of my favorite character in the marvel universe even though he got some problems.
no it is not. all of those characters are insanely strong.
and I actually cracked one of those smiles that precedes a genuine LOL moment when, of all the characters on that list, you thought Wesker was the only one who had a top 5 spot on lock? Over Ammy? Over Dante? Over Magneto?
W. T. F.
im not arguing that magneto is better than iron man , im saying that all those issues you listed with iron man shouldnt be a factor in how good he is
not exactly. because unlike the top 5 emblem listed, sent, doom, and tron are not insanely as good fighting on point. the top 5 all have good sets of assist ( or an good assist ) and can undoubtedly hold their own as a point better than those you mentioned.
i don’t even understand how you think magneto and ammy are anything but top 5. please shed some light.
Agreed. Magneto in the top 5 isnt really debatable. Ditto Ammy and Dante, really, but I suppose people on an internet forum could debate anything if they really want to. I’d agree w/ EmblemLord’s top 5, though I kind of feel like Phoenix kinda-sorta has an exemption from such a discussion, because she distorts everything so much. She’s so powerful, but her teammates actually DROP in tier by being associated (individually, not in the team sense). I’m not saying Phx isnt top tier, hell she might end up proving #1, I’m just saying she’s kind of “different tier,” and I’m inclined to come up with a list that doesn’t have her on it. In that case I’d probably go with taskmaster to crack top 5, #6 if keeping Phx on the list.
Dudes saying people need to get off Eric’s dick. Pshh no fall back yall niggas need to get off Jame’s dick.
Props to anyone that knows the chars I’m talking bout. 
The way I look at it, is I look at the character’s individual strengths, then I look at how they contribute to a team and how they strengthen a team, and the options the open up.
Individually, I will gladly concede that Magneto and Ammy are probably some of the strongest characters in the game.
However, I feel like the options they bring to the table when they’re on the sidelines, while very good, are not as useful/dominating as some others.
People like Wesker/Shulk are not only incredible characters on point, but they’re equally scary not on point with their ability to open up new combo possibilities for their team and set up retarded shit like unblockables.
I feel like assists and what options a character brings to the team are also important factors when considering tiers.
I might be wrong though.
How the hell are you comparing Wesker to She-Hulk? That chick dies to good zoning and chars with good mobility. She NEEDS an assist. You think she dominates more then Dante? More then Ammy? WHAT?
Dante is an entire league ahead of she-hulk. There is no comparison at all. Same with the other chars I mentioned. They are ALL strong on point or as an assist. Dante has 3 powerful assists. She-hulk has an otg. And hers isn’t even the best nor is she the best on point she just blows people up with the right assist.
Options you bring to the team? Dante is one of the few chars that can set-up the DHC trick or come at the end of it. If that’s not powerful team synergy options then wtf is? Yes, She-hulk can help set-up unblockables. That alone is not enough to make her top tier. Not when you look at her options and the 5 I mentioned. Who do these chars lose too?
She-hulk gets blown up by good zoning. She just can’t get in. Which is why she NEEDS an assist. Hell at least Wolverine has answers to zoning by himself.
translation:
Magneto is every bit as good as people say, Wolverine is overrated.
Conclusion:
We’re both nerds for knowing this.
I also agree that Dante is unquestionably in the top 5. The scary part is that he still has so much untapped potential. I think he’ll probably end up #1.
She-Hulk does have a hard time getting around projectiles, but in a 1 on 1 situation, her slide keeps people honest.