i know i’m beginning to sound like an trish lover, but she is top ten candidate imo for more reasons than you listed densou. round harvest is not only a free hard tag in button, but it also sets up easy unblockables for good damage. besides her dive kick just being an easy get in tool, she can even cancel it to super, etc, to punish whiff moves that try to tag her divekicks. i can list more reasons why i feel trish is at least #10, but i’m tired atm.
This weeks top 10 from me
- Magneto
- The Dog (Ammy)
- Wesker
- Dante
- TRISH! (think real hard about all of the tools she has, and the obscenely safe normals\specials, 2nd best runaway(only phoenix does it better) setups to free raw tag->unblockable->dead character… only thing she lacks is the ability to do 70% in one combo but she can frustrate you into taking that much and wasting your time anyway)
- Taskmaster
- Phoenix… could be as high as #1 but neutering the bite out of two of your characters kinda sucks time to time
- She-Hulk
- Dr. Doom
- Wolverine\Zero\Akuma
Top assists overall
- Tron fire
- Akuma\Ryu (tatsu is gdlk bro)
- Sentinel drones
Those are my top 10 and my opinion of the top 10 this week
i’d say tron’s assist is the best character in the game. no not tron the character, but her assist.
http://shoryuken.com/f340/actual-balance-potential-tiers-discussion-268608/index85.html#post10525891
the only thing i’ll change is maybe swap out akuma for she-hulk.
I found it interesting that Floe said on the WNF stream that he thinks Wolvie is #1, Ammy #2 and Magneto just about scrapes into top tier at #5.
I personally see it as
Magneto
Phoenix
Amaterasu
Wesker
Dante
Wolverine
Zero
Task Master
As the game’s killers, divided into two mini tiers at the top of the mountain.
Wolverine is the best character in the game, just wanted to remind everyone of that fact.
yup, you literally can’t do anything while it is active. her assist shoots certain characters up the tier list by itself.
I’ll be honest. I hate the fuck out of two things. Trish’s round harvest hyper (free hard tag, unblockable setup) and Tron’s invincible assist. I mean damn. At least haggar’s requires life/ can be ducked/is slightly punishable.
Ironically most that I’ve played online have no clue how to use her except for assist. 1 SnapBac Later…
It appears to me that any tier list with Dante somewhere other than “top” can’t really be taken too seriously. Certainly I’m not saying #1, but unquestionably in the top tier. It’s fantastic that so many characters can make a case for top tier-dom, and that the 2nd tier is so massive!
Where does captain america lie in the tier lists? Could he be considered a battery character?
Is thor still considered to be at the very bottom?
Where does Iron man stand as a character with an 8-way dash?
Why is zero considered better than wolverine now?
Top five to me in no order:
Wesker: needs no meter for damage, dat pistol, best otg assist, styling clothes.
Magneto: flying run stop fierce, disruptor spam, non-scaled level 3, still has that speed, still has the intimidation factor from 2
Amaterasu: small hurtbox great hypers, assist while opponent is cornered is lockdown, good movement options to bolster it’s excellent attack ability.
Dante: so many moves, so much stuff to take into account, easily xfcs million bucks into another million bucks. Devil trigger is one of two moves that recovers health without xf.
Phoenix: a yandere. Give her some love now, or she’ll reverse rape you later.
Out of these 5, barring nerfs/changes the only one I see dropping down from top five due to play time is Phoenix. People are going to focus on containing her or to execute workarounds. Everyone else is solid. She has variables to deal with and forces two characters to stick it out on thier own.
top 5: no order
Wolvie: Berserker charge, drill claw, dive kick, nuff said
Doggie: you know why
Dante: WTF normals and LONG combos, best potential in the game (c.viper is 2nd but her normals dont compare)
Tasky: EXTREMELY solid, hard to open up, ton of health, damage
Storm: 2 amazing supers; one being a godly damage dhc reset tool, the other universally DHC able from everyone -AND- OTG. She’s also one of the fastest, mobile characters in the game with a unique float mode making for stupid good mixup.
6-10: no order, still game changers, have multiple flaws
Magneto: more offensive storm with less good supers (not grav sqweez) and health, disruptor is gdlk, slaps slaps slaps
PHX: only reason not top 5 because of hp
sentinel: Simple, damaging, always a threat
she hulk: resets to death, LOTS of HP, Tons of damage, silly overall
Wesker: solid dmage, doesnt need meter, laughs at your projectile, gun
This ‘Wolverine is the greatest’ stuff is odd to me. I don’t think that Wolverine is a bad character on his own by any means, but top tier? I can understand guys like Wesker and Magneto and Mutt being up there, because they have a ton of built-in tools. Wolverine has always seemed a little limited to me on his own, which I think keeps him out of the top tier.
I think that Wolv + Akuma is top-tier as hell in terms of team combinations though. I just don’t think he’s top tier by himself. He needs a friend.
I feel like Wolverine needs more support (DRONES, TATSU) than characters like Magneto and Amaterasu, but when he has it he’s scarier.
I’d much rather fight Mags + Drones than Wolverine + Drones.
Yeah I think people are packing Wolvie in the high tier the same reason they are She Hulk. She Hulk with assits is a force that pretty much anyone has to be scared of and the same thing goes for Wolverine up front with assists. The main issue is that Wolverine already doesn’t need to do much to land a hit on you that leads to profit. He has a dive kick that will give you some type of a combo guaranteed on any air or ground hit. Trish and X23 have to hit you from a very specific height/angle to get combos off air hits of their dive but Wolverine just doesn’t care. Air hit…ground hit…it just needs to hit and he’ll get the profit. It doesn’t have much range but that’s kind of a good thing too because he can make it whiff outside of the range and then go for a throw mix up or call assist into instant overhead j.L etc.
Until people figure out more about fighting Wolverine he will definitely be a force. The fact that he has Wesker style left right mix ups but basically faster means once you let him get in it’s basically a guess as to if you will be hit or not. It doesn’t really seem like anyone’s found a solid strategy for dealing with Berserker Slash because…you can’t really have a solid strategy right off the bat for something that left rights you in a split second. Especially with the invincibility frames randomly in the middle of the move. It’s like having to deal with Sakura resets without actually getting hit first.
Especially if it’s backed up with an assist and can be cancelled into a super that makes him faster and stronger on block and can do the same thing into a full combo on hit. As for right now I dont really think there’s much of a gameplan for fighting Wolverine other than staying outside of berserker slash ranges and basically landing a hit before he lands one on you. He can definitely be lamed out but only a few characters can really win against Wolverine laming him out. Otherwise you gotta step in the ring and fight your way through dives and berserker slash which ways. It’s almost like the game plays for Wolverine.
Since that’s pretty much ALL there is to Wolverine I feel like eventually he’ll get figured out more and we’ll see where he lands from there. For right now though early in the game where people still dont play this game at the highest level of play…he’s going to go around tearing through shit because he’ll take advantage of any small hole in your game very fast. Being able to do all that without much work is the scary part. He’s basically the Rufus of the game. Has a bit of a rough time getting in but once he gets in like you can’t think anymore. You just have to do something before he does something. The fact that if he tries to do something and it’s blocked he gets to cancel into a super that makes him faster and stronger is like…unnecessary. You can’t give Wolverine too much or too little respect because that’s all he needs to sneak in something random and end you.
Top 5 for me is:
Wesker, Dante, Magneto, Wolverine, Dormammu
but I rarely think of characters by themselves.
Top Tier team:
Magneto Wesker Akuma.
Hands down the best team combination to date.
To all the player who think Wolverine is top 5 …stay free.
Yall keep my wins high.
5-10 IMO:
Amaterasu
Zero
Storm
Dormammu
Doom
Lurker here, quoting the above for emphasis. Seems like half the cast is being ignored.
I really feel like I need to mention this. When this game first came out and before the nerf, Sentinel was the best character in the game. A couple of months later, he is not the best in the game any more but still top. He can easily kill teams, that’s why I’m scared as hell to call assists when I’m playing against a Sentinel. No character in the game scares me in calling my assists more so than Sentinel. If it’s Sentinel with X-factor I’d be scared as hell to attack and call any assists.
Sentinel still has the best or 2nd best X Factor rivaling Dark Phoenix, but not needing as much meter. And even when I try blocking in the air to prevent low’s and overheads and sent’s super armor from getting the better of me, he has the option to… command grab me to punish my air blocking approach and it has so much range.
Now, with the health nerf, I notice more Sentinel players using his Rocket Punch assist especially against opposing characters that can punish Sentinel drone assist from long range. Sentinel is still very good. Definitely amongst the top 5-10 best characters in the game. It also seems like when Sentinel is an anchor relying on X Factor, this game starts to feel like a game of chance, if Sentinel gets the first hit in on you it’s over. I keep seeing this happening on streams too. X Factor Sentinel making huge comebacks the majority of the time. There’s no way he can’t be in the top 10.