Some more MK goodness (or crapness). Against my better judgement I do intend to get this game, just because I’m a whore for the MK storyline so there’s no way I can pass up a game with every MK character ever in it. I’ll prolly regret it, but what the hell.
Just one question if anyone knows. Are they gonna actually let you use your frame advantage in MK:A?? Because in MK:D you couldn’t attack. most you could do was move around
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Steroidality.
Wow, this game looks trash…
mhmmmm
Yeh it looks trash… but the last 2 MKs have been trash. This would survive alone on the novelty of having all the characters in it… so that all the people with fond MK memories can have a 3D Trilogy even if the core gameplay blows.
However Motaro having 2 legs totally rapes that idea. Wtf? ‘Too much programming’ ?? Wtf? You are a team of developers right? Programming is something youre meant to be able do. You did code the damn engine for these 3d MKs yourself right? You can make larger characters like Onaga and Moloch… but you cant make a horse? Thats bs- theyre just too lazy to try motion capturing that shit.
No excuse. This Motaro shit is unforgivable.
Wait til people realize that this team of “programmers” couldn’t program a single new fighting style into the game. Did anyone notice that anyone added from MKDA has their same shit minus a stance, and guys added like Kai and Meat were simply given one of the stances taken away from someone else. Programmers indeed…it took them 2 years to shuffle existing data around.
There’s one excuse, Midway’s lazy.
MK:D was totally broken
the way you use frame advantage in that: free unduckable throws, ie sidestep throw…
just so everyone knows, people actually approached midway with everything that was broken about MK:D, i.e. THIS:
Ashrah
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
2,1 walk up ss~throw
2,2 walk up~throw
2,2,1,cs,3,cs jump over~throw
2,2,1,cs,2,2,cs walk up ss~throw
Wall
2,2,1,cs,3, F+3 walk up ss~throw
2nd stance
B+4 walk up~throw
1,3,cs jump over~throw
2,2,cs walk up ss~throw
Wall
2,2 F+3 walk up ss~throw
1,2,2 F+3 walkup ss~throw
3rd stance
2,2 walk up ss~throw
3,4,2,2 walk up ss~throw
F+1,1,1,1 walk up ss~throw
Wall
1,1~walk up~throw
OTG
1st
Throw wait till they land~attack
2nd
end combo w/ 1,3,F+3 walk up and attack w/ a mid.
Every character can do a jump in kick or punch then get a free throw, BUT because of her throw OTG she can throw, jump back jump forward punch/kick~throw
INFINITES
1st stance
2,1 walk up ss throw~repeat
2nd stance
B+4 walk up throw, wait till then land~repeat
3rd stance
2,2 walk up ss throw, wait till then land~repeat
3,4,2,2 walk up ss throw, wait till then land~repeat
Any stance
Jump in kick throw, jump back, Jump in kick~repeat
Jump in punch throw, jump back, Jump in punch~repeat
Time INFINITE
2nd stance
end combo w/ 1,3,F+3 walk up UP+4, 1,3,F+3~repeat
DARRIUS
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
1,2,3,cs dash foward ss~throw
2nd stance
Wall
D+1~throw
D+3~throw
3rd stance
2 walk up~throw
B+3 walk up~throw
Specials
Chest Cruncher walk up ss~throw
Target Practice walk up ss~throw
Wall
Fireball quickly walk up~throw
OTG
1~throw walk up and attack
2~1st stance end any combo w/ F+2, quickly walk up and attack w/ a mid or low.
3~3rd stance end any combo w/ F+1, walk up and attack w/ a mid or low.
INFINITES
Specials
Target Practice walk up ss throw~repeat
His infinites all are dependent on his target practice special to maximize damage given.
use any combo of his otgs w/ the target special then otg again~repeat.
HAVIK
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
B+1 walk up ss~throw
B+4 walk up ss~throw
2,2,cs walk up~throw
1,1,2,B+4 walk up ss~throw
1,1,2,2,cs walk up~throw
1,1,2,cs walk up ss~throw
2nd stance
4 walk up~throw
1,1,2,3,4 walk up~throw
F+2 walk up ss~throw
1,1,2,F+2 walk up ss~throw
B+3 walk up ss~throw
F+3 walk up~throw
Wall
D+3~throw
3rd stance
1 walk up~throw
2,2,2 walk up ss~throw
INFINITES
1st stance
B+4 walk up ss throw~repeat
2nd stance
F+2 walk up ss throw~repeat
B+3 walk up ss throw~repeat
HOTARU
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
F+2 walk up ss~throw
2nd stance
1 walk up~throw
F+2 walk up ss~throw
B+2 walk up~throw
4 walk up ss~throw
2,2,4 walk up ss~throw
2,2,1 walk up~throw
2,2,cs cs cs walk up ss~throw
3rd stance
1 walk up~throw
B+1 jump over~throw
1,B+1 jump over~throw
B+2 dash foward~throw
Specials
Wall
F,F+4 walk up ss~throw
OTG
1~1st stance end combo w/ B+1,
2~Throw wait till they land, attack w/ a mid.
INFINITES
1st stance
F+2 walk up ss throw~repeat
2nd stance
2,2,cs cs cs walk up ss throw~repeat *once you get near a wall start up a new type of infinite.
4 walk up ss throw~repeat
F+2 walk up ss~throw
3rd stance
B+1 jump over throw~repeat
Time Infinite
1st stance OTG
B+1,B+1,B+1~repeat
JADE
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
B+1 walk up ss~throw
2,2,1,cs,4,cs,B+2 Teleport~throw
2nd stance
B+4 Teleport~throw
4,4,cs,B+2 Teleport~throw
Wall
D+3~throw
3rd stance
B+2 Teleport~throw
4 walk up~throw
OTG
3rd stance
end combo w/ UP+3
Wall
Pop up, Nitro Kick~attack
INFINITES
3rd stance
end combo w/ UP+3 walk up, cs, combo ending w/ 3rd stance UP+3~repeat
KABAL
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
B+2 walk up ss~throw
4~walk up throw
2nd stance
4 walk up ss~throw
1,4 walk up ss~throw
2,spin walk up~throw
1,1,cs,1,4 walk up~throw
3rd stance
4 walk up~throw
1,1,4 walk up~throw
3~walk up~throw
B+2,spin walk up~throw
Wall
UP+2 walk up~throw
OTG
End combo w/ 1,3 timed spin
Wall
End combo w/ 1,3 attack w/ a mid or spin
Time INFINITES
Do the OTG over and over
BARAKA
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
2nd stance
B+4 Hold forward~throw
3,cs walk up ss~throw
1,2,cs,3,2 walk up~throw
3rd stance
2 walk up~throw
3,3,2 walk up~throw
B+4 Hold forward~throw
INFINITE was added at the start of the video
Wall
Pop up, combo, when you get pushed back, Mutant Blades over and over.
KIRA
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
1,1 walk up~throw
B+4 walk up ss~throw
4,3 walk up~throw
1,1,4,3 walk up~throw
2nd stance
UP+2 jump over~throw
B+3 hold forward~throw
Wall
B+2 walk up ss~throw
3rd stance
UP+3 walk up ss~throw
Wall
F+3 walk ss~throw
1,F+3 walk up ss~throw
OTG
Wall
1st stance
end combo w/ 1,1,2 attack w/ 1,1,2 or her ball special.
Time INFINITE
OTG, repeat 1,1,2 till time runs out.
Ermac
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
1 slight ss walk up~throw
2,2,1 slight ss walk up~throw
2,2,2 walk up~throw
2,2,cs jump over~throw
Wall
B+3 walk up ss~throw
1,B+3 walk up ss~throw
2nd stance
3 walk up~throw
1,1,3 walk up~throw
B+3 walk up ss~throw
1 walk up~throw
B+2 jump over~throw
1,1,B+2 jump over~throw
Wall
4 walk up~throw
F+1 walk up ss~throw *text is typed wrong in vid :-
1,1 walk up~throw
3rd stance
Wall
UP+3 walk up ss~throw
4 walk up~throw
4,4 walk up~throw
4,4,4 walk up~throw
1,3,4 walk up~throw
1,3,4,4 walk up~throw
1,3,4,4,4 walk up~throw
Specials
Teleslam jump over~throw
Wall
Tele throw walk up~throw
OTG
Wall
Pop up end combo w/ F+1 then attack.
KENSHI
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
B+1 jump over~throw
2 walk up~throw
2,2,2 walk up~throw
B+2 walk up~throw
Wall
F+1 jump over~throw
2,2,2,cs,4,cs,2,1 walk up ss~throw
2nd stance
B+1 walk up~throw
Wall
D+4~throw
3rd stance
Wall
2,2,1 walk up ss~throw
Specials
Teleslam jump over~throw
Wall
Tele throw walk up~throw
KOBRA
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
1 ss~throw
1,1,3,3 walk up ss~throw
2,1,1,3,3 walk up ss~throw
Wall
D+1~throw
D+3~throw
2nd stance
2,2,2 walk up~throw
1,4 jump over~throw
1,3,cs walk up ss~throw
3rd stance
F+2 walk up ss~throw
Wall
D+3~throw
D+4~throw
D+1~throw
Special
Flaming fist walk up ss~throw
Wall
Throw walk up~throw
OTG
1~1st stance end combo w/ F+2 then walk up and attack w/ 4 or a mid.
2~3rd stance Wall end combo w/ F+2 quickly B+3
INFINITE
Wall
Throw, make sure they go over Kobras head throw~repeat
Time INFINITE
1st stance end combo w/ F+2 walk up 4~repeat
Li Mei
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
1,1,1 walk up~throw
2 walk up~throw
B+4 walk up ss~throw
1,1,2 walk up~throw
3,3 walk up~throw
1,1, B+4 walk up ss~throw
1,1,3,3 walk up~throw
2nd stance
1 walk up~throw
Wall
D+1~throw
1,1,1~throw
3rd stance
2 walk up~throw
B+3 walk up~throw
Wall
D+1~throw
Special
Flipping Heel Kick walk up~throw
Liu Kang
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
3 walk up~throw
1,1,3 walk up~throw
2,3 walk up~throw
UP+4 walk up~throw
4~throw
Wall
1,1 walk up~throw
2 walk up~throw
2nd stance
B+1 walk up ss~throw
UP+4 jump over~throw
4,UP+4 jumpover~throw
4,3 walk up~throw
Throw dash forward~throw *this can only be done in 2nd stance.
3rd stance
1,1,1,1 walk up~throw
B+4 walk up~throw
Special
Wall
High fireball~throw
INFINITE
2nd stance
Throw dash forward throw~repeat
Mileena
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
Wall
B+1 slight ss~throw
2nd stance
B+3 hold forward~throw
4 walk up~throw
4,3 walk up~throw
Wall
D+1~throw
3rd stance
1,1,1 walk up~throw
B+2 walk up ss~throw
Wall
D+3~throw
Specials
Roll walk up~throw
OTG
1~1st stance Wall end combo w/ 3, then attack w/ 3
2~2nd stance Wall end combo w/ 4,1 quickly B+2,2,2
Time INFINITE
1st stance Wall end combo w/ 3, attack w/ 3~repeat
Noob~Smoke
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
Noob
1,1,cs walk up ss~throw
Special
D,B+2 walk up ss~throw
Smoke
B+1 walk up ss~throw
3 walk up ss~throw
Wall
D+1~throw
N~S
Special
Have NS on or near a wall~D,B+3 walk up ss~throw
OTG
NOOB
Throw, F,F+3
Wall
Throw then attack
INFINITES
NOOB
Wall
1~D,B+2 walk up ss throw~repeat
2~Throw 1,1,cs walk up ss~throw,cs,1,1,cs~repeat
Smoke
B+1 walk up ss throw~repeat
Wall
D+1 throw~repeat
NightWolf
UNDUCKABLE THROWS
1st stance
UP+2 jump over~throw
2 walk up~throw
1,1,1,cs~throw
Wall
1~throw
D+1~throw
D+3~throw
2nd stance
B+1 walk up~throw
Wall
1,1,2 walk up ss~throw
3rd stance
3 walk up~throw
1,3 walk up~throw
2,3 walk up~throw
1,2,3 walk up~throw
B+1 jump over~throw
Special
Wall
Fireball~throw
INFINITES
1~1st stance UP+2 jump over throw~repeat
2~3rd stance B+1 jump over throw~repeat
yeah, all of that
supposedly it’s all been fixed but we’ll have to wait a few weeks to see won’t we
Yeah i knew about the free throws/infs., but i wanna know if they’ll allow you to actually use your advantage this time around since all of that stuff is supposedly gonna be fixed.
i think this game will have fuzzy guard problems actually seeing as how a lot of stuff is height dependant now
plus i’m still puzzled about that ceiling hit recovery stun from the video with Rain
Bullshit.
Onaga and Moloch have 2 arms and 2 legs.
Motaro had 2 arms and 4 legs.
I would believe you if this was 2D, where Motaro’s only horse moves were moving forward with 4 legs and that annoying ass kick he had. This is a 3D environment we’re talking about here. He’d have to have more horse-like maneuvering. Him trying to move around like the regular combatants might work out until you get to special moves. That’s if you get past how weird it would look. If he could do that buck kick from MK3 as fast as, say, scorpion can hit you with his spear at close range, just the look of it would draw cries of BROKEN!
Also, besides the buck kick, a “jump on you” special, and a “horse wheelie” where he stands up on his back legs and comes down on the opponent, what kick attacks would he have? He can’t use his front legs like the rest of the crowd. It would look stupid if he can only keep up a stream of kicks with his back turned to you. That’s the only way I see it going down.
That means Motaro would have to have a steady supply of punches and grabs to make up for the lack of kicks. The whiners would whine about that too, whether or not those punches or grabs were broken.
Putting Motaro in with the current system was too much work for something which would’ve tanked.
Jesus.
There’s a shitload of new videos at the mkarmageddon.com site.
Get in. They’re under The Game --> Characters. There are about 30, I guess.
I can already feel Smoke will be broken.
Another thing that Midway is so damn lazy is that almost all the fighters has the same damn voice. I bet it will be the same way in MKA
ok, admit it…who’s buying this on wednesday
I’m probably getting this next week. Hopefully this will hold my interest until VF5.
i already got it preordered with free overnight shipping:wgrin:
I’m going to wait and see if the UMK3 on the Kollector’s Edition isn’t buggy like the MK games on Midway Arcade Treasures 2.
I’m probably the only one here paying $50 for UMK3.