I loved this movie. The humans weren’t annoying. The human bad guys had a legit reasoning and purpose that made sense. The fighting was awesome. Only gripe…Michael Bay could’ve put the scissors to this movie and cut 30 min. off it cause holy shit was this movie long.
One thing I loved is that Optimus Prime was mad…but mad for a reason!
I saw it.
“I” was really, really p!$$ed.
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Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Peter Cullen & Frank Welker ![/details]
Everyone and everything he cares for could be lost to him. Again.(the pre-2007 movie comics, holy shit.
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He should be!
So, was my optimism about a better written/done TF4 well-placed, guys?
Your impressions are a good sign, IMO.
EDIT:So, Grimlock had no lines?
Ah… I would’ve liked to hear George Berger channel blind rage after rationality fails again(yo FoC Grimlock was PERFECT there, he did GL right, there), but this kinda fits 'Lock too; he doesn’t talk, he acts/he has nothing to say until the fighting is over/talking gives away location, that sort of thing.
Side note, Rise of the Dark Spark is pretty solid. Wait a bit for the price to drop, but it’s actually really good.
Have to wait til Saturday to see this. Reading everyone impressions here, hype levels rising.
Please tell me that it has a lot of fights in it, because I fucking hated how much stupid fucking useless dialogue the first TF movies had.
That’s the main thing PR has over these movies, PR actually gave you what you wanted
I don’t want to see generic white hero and girl running around and talking and having personal problems.
I want to see fucking transforming robots having a civil war and beating the shit out of each other.
Also, please tell me that the TFs don’t rely heavily on guns in their fights, it was so boring to watch these cool ass robots get killed by being shot instead of getting beaten in a fist fight or getting cut in half or anything else because it would have been cooler than just watching them get shot a couple of times.
I’d rather they not kill characters so freely, but in this day and age movie makers want to kill all the villains even when they don’t have to, even the characters aren’t supposed to.
I swear to god if they kill the Shredder in this first(there’ll be more) TMNT movie…
If he wasn’t right, I’d agree…
But F#CK this movie was bad.
I came in with like NO expectations and STILL felt the movie was ass.
I’m OK with the explosions. I’m OK with the length.
But we reverted to a TF1 with regard to soulless transformers. Sam and Bumblee were at least ‘friends’, this go around, there is no emotional investment in any autobot, and the decipticons are actually soulless now. That was the quietest theatre I’ve been in in a LONG time. You could just ‘feel’ people’s thoughts - “this is a train wreck, but I paid $16 dollars to watch it”.
The pacing was bad as well, somehow the dinobots are only in the movie for like 3 minutes of screen time and simply aren’t relevant. They devolved to a mount for Optimus. Frnakly, the whole idea of “Optimus Porn” was taken to the next level. I wish he would just really die so someone could kill off all the autobots to show how useless they really are.
Pros - John Goodman as hound, Kelsey Gramar as Evil Gov’t head honcho, early death of annoying ‘f#ck’.
Cons - everything else (no exageration)
I can’t recommend the movie to anyone. I’m infamous for being able to turn off my brain to watch and enjoy a movie, but damn.
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Oh the Sin tally on this movie is super high. As are the plot holes. From Optimus’s self-healing, to Bee randomly changing from an older vette to a newer one…because feels I guess, to Galvatron just…wow, to ‘soulless’ decepticons who don’t get named beyond “Transformer 1, Transformer 2, Transformer 3”, the random ‘bring aliens into it’ bullshit angle, even the ending was like “wait Optimus can fly now?”…and that progressed from a ninja that could fly the whole time…INTO OUTER SPACE APPARENTLY, and his hiding place is a f#cking movie theatre? There were several times were I just spoke out “Magic” or did the JAckie Chan face.
Oh the dinobots what the f#ck. Optimus is going to randomly “Be a Knight!” (wtf is that bullshit), free the dinobots that were in ice, but now are on lockdown’s ship, and then proceed to punch Grimlock a couple times, and now they act like obedient f#cking horses? Peter Cullen maybe the voice, but evne I have to look at him for his shitty VA on this one.
We got the “Oh that doomsday shit from Man of Steal looked awesome, I’m gonna steal that!” BS, where Optimus is the only one to think “Shoot that shit son!”. :really:
Oh yeah, and I love how Optimus gets stabbed THROUGH HIS F#CKING SPARK, and is OK, yet it pretty much kills Lockdown.
Then Optimus flies off into space because of feels, to leave his team which tried to kill each other WITHOUT HIM alone to protect the humans that whiped out the autobots while Galvatron runs around - apparently stronger than ever?
F#ck this
drops mic
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Damn, TF4 got some horrid reviews lol. I thought they were trying to make the movies better?
That’s the thing, they tried. No ball jokes, no pissing Transformers, etc. That’s what makes it so frustrating, its a bad movie because it simply wasn’t executed well. The potential was actually ALL there.
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Was there more action and less human character bullshit?
I said the same thing last go round when Transformers 3 came out and go flamed for it.
ONly G1 cartoon stuff that was legit was MAsterforce
Yes, they DID listen to the critiques, they just dropped the ball elsewhere.
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with not giving a shit about the nameless Transformers. In a television show where you’re selling toys of course you wanna know about those characters cause again, you’re pushing toys on kids to buy. With a movie though? Who gives a shit. You’re there to see Autobots and Decepticons fight each other.
I only want to know 2 things
Does the human take more screen time than the Transformers?
And, Are the action scenes good?
I still try to watch it but for the little that i have read here i think that i will regret it
Ummmm, what about that Victory tho?
Here’s where I stand with the movie, objectively -
Transformers Age of Extinction is an action spectacle. It gives us more of what was demanded:
More robot screentime
More action
Less crass humor
a darker premise/ plot (I thought it was functional)
Characterization of the Transformers
A justifiable/ believable reason for Optimus Prime to be the homicidal maniac that we have been watching since 2007
A villain, that you actually want to win because their bad-assery is so magnificent
A human character that actually did something
More wide shots of the action (shaky cam is waaaaaaaaaaay down)
Robot vs. Robot doesn’t look like junkyard sex
However, this movie is flawed because:
I did not know where the 2nd act ended and the 3rd act began cause it was painfully loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
Decepticons (or said 'Cons redux) are soulless cannon/ Dinobot fodder
Robot anatomy is awesome without a medic
A weak attempt at a love story
Despite one human worth a damn, you get another 2 that are throwaways, and 3 others that weren’t really fleshed out
The transformation (or lack there of) for man made transformers made me want to kill. Seriously, that was the most annoying thing. Shit was worse than the Beast Machines aesthetic
Irish D-Bag should was not needed, at least he should have made a character change to his personality through the movie. Out of all the human cast, that was the one that I wish Prime took his face, just out of spite
I am with @Unreallystic in that the movie could have been better. For starters, Bay either needs to fire his editor or listen to him. That alone would have made things better. I still enjoyed it. I have seen much worse movies in my time, and this definitely is a cut above those. IMO it beats out the other 3 movies.
Victory was pretty mediocre, it had good animation for the first couple eps but the show was just G1 lite all over again.
There is more human screen time than Transformer and it might be for the better :bluu:
The action scenes are super forgetable except the one that reminds you of the scene in Transporter 3 where he drove the Audi upside down to pull a bomb off the bottom. Saving humans from falling to their doom or smashing into a truck seem to be Optimus and Bumblebee’s main occupation…ugh.
There really is no redeeming value as the fights aren’t even good.
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There is a problem.
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Just being frank, all the decepticons are DEAD at the start of the movie, so when Megatron is ‘turned’ into Galvatron we have literally JUST him as a villain, and he says ONE effing line to Optimus and one for when losing, oh and at the very end he says he’ll get revenge. There is no banter back and forth with Optimus, there is absolutely no excitement for such a large ‘reveal’ if you will. There was no bad guy on bad guy interaction with the transformers. Then once ‘galvatron’ has his army of 50 ‘decepticons’, they are just sheep, so you have pretty much advanced drones doing Galvatrons bidding sans personality. You’ve got Lockdown talking some super-un-interesting jibberish to Optimus. That’s it. Its more shallow on the bad guy side than the first movie was where they were pretty much in disguise until the big fight. The autobots converse amongst each other, but its pretty ‘meh’, with Hound being the stand out. If this was a brand new series with no established lore or characters…I’d be mildly ok with it, but you really don’t give a damn about anyone due to the lack of development. It’s even worse for the dinobots.
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I’ll have to disagree with all of the action sequences. What makes them forgettable? They were shot pretty well, not a lot of shakey cam, and had points of escalation. The ending could have been due to the useless cannon fodder for sure, but doesn’t take away from how it looked.
I will have to agree with some of your points and will address it in the spoiler tags
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I didn’t really expect much from G-Man. I would agree, Lockdown and Galvatron should have had a bout of some kind. The Autobot “banter” was appreciated, and would agree that Hound was the standout. Not saying they would get any academy awards with it, but Cullen’s rage-ified Optimus was great. Optimus was caring about his crew, and actually showed some emotion outside of “GIVE ME YOUR FACE”. That scene with Ratchet at the beginning made me want to cringe, and when Prime found out, the response was correct, unlike in DOTM where Autobots die and there was no mention of death. I felt it did establish something, Optimus Prime is a vengeance seeking Autobot that is a tired dog of war and wants to put an end to this charade. Cade Yeager could come back, but they’d have to make it work. They can lose the teens in a rally accident. The only Autobot that didn’t seem to really do anything IMO was Crosshairs. He had a few lines, and PEW PEW from the ship but nothing more. We need more Hound for sure.
Now the Dinobot -
Even though they were cool, that was a waste of character. I wish they at least spoke. The concept of them being legendary knights from the days of old that were captured by Lockdown was good (callback to the Lightning Strike Coalition), but it definitely could have been better.