Mass Effect 2. Somebody's getting shot and thrown out a window

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

PROTIP: On the planet scanning screen pulse your LT you’ll get a much faster speed, and should still be able to catch most of the spikes.

[Weeks]

for tali

[details=Spoiler]Yeah, when I sent her through the vents, she died as well. But when I chose legion, everyone survived.

I used Legion in the vents, Garrus for the fire team leader both times, Samara to escort people back to the ship, and Jack to make the biotic barrier[/details]

[Kyoujin]

I don’t get it, is there something I’m not doing properly? Is there one of the three conversation options before I should choose?

[Shadowcuz]

Alright, having a bit of trouble during the final mission.

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Read carefully, as I can’t figure out how to use the spoiler tag.

Everytime I send Tali through the vents, she dies in the end. I’ve read from various sources that if she’s loyal, she won’t die. I have alos tried this with Legion, another suggested choice, but he dies as well. I should also mention that she is the only person that dies on the mission. I have no idea what I’m doing wrong.

Any help?

whose the leader of your second fireteam? is he/she loyal?

[Kyoujin]

Samara. Yes, she’s loyal, but I never thought that would affect the other person. I’ve been told Miranda and Jacob are good choices, as well. Maybe I’ll give that a shot. Can anyone verify this?

[Shadowcuz]

Samara. Yes, she’s loyal, but I never thought that would affect the other person. I’ve been told Miranda and Jacob are good choices, as well. Maybe I’ll give that a shot. Can anyone verify this?

Yeah, thats where you went wrong. Miranda/Garrus are the best candidates for that job. Not sure about Jacob though. Remember they also have to be loyal.

[Kyoujin]

Alright, I’ll give that a try. I thought Samara was a good choice. Miranda even makes a comment about how it was a good choice, as well. Smart-mouth bitch. Sweet ass, smart-mouth bitch…

I think my heart cracked a little when I realised that Miranada had no interest in smashing front-bums with femshep.

Damn shame.

Anyway…thanks.

[Stuart_Hayden]

Who I used:
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Tech: Tali
Shield: Samara
2nd Leader: Garrus (both times)
Crew Escort: It doesn’t really matter but I used Thane. Most people who I’ve talk to/read posts from used Thane or Grunt.
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[Lokken]

Tech - Tali/Legion

Leaders - Garrus/Miranda

Biotics - Samara/Jack

Escort to ship - Anyone loyal

Survive the final fight - anyone loyal

[Kyoujin]

Hey, guess who’s awesome? You are. Worked like a charm.

Thanks for your help.

[KYO84]

I didn’t notice, but I was actually playing dominate on hardcore (it was just a for fun build anyway). That might explain why things seemed a lot easier.

Do you really like reave, btw? Seems to me that warp ammo is superior for the infiltrator, as it’s more of a passive ability that can be used in conjunction with assassination cloak. Reave is an active ability, and thus you have to wait for the cool down in order to use cloak again,

Yeah, I’m really enjoying Reave as my bonus talent and I’ll explain why. I noticed on Insanity that any lvl4 Evolution ability that can hit multiple targets is worthless, all enemies on Insanity have Barriers/Shields/Armor and the “splash damage” those abilities provided is really gimped. I made all the lvl4 abilities for my Shepard and squad “Heavy” for max single target DPS which allows me to blow up a target quickly then move on to the next. On Insanity I do a rotation of Heavy Reave>Unstable Warp>Heavy Reave with Shepard+Miranda+Samara; this rotation blows up all enemies on Insanity except for Geth Primes, Heavy Mechs and Scions which my Widow can take care of.

I’m not knocking Warp Ammo and Tungsten at all and have played with them as well but I have so much Element Zero that respeccing to test different things out isn’t a problem. My rotation works really well on PC since I can hotkey Reave>Unstable Warp>Heavy Reave to the 1>2>3 keys without pausing combat, having Active Squad casting turned off also helps.

AI Hacking was working well for me on Hardcore but when I made the switch to Insanity I saw how useless it and Dominate where. :bluu:

[Tanner]

Yeah, I’m really enjoying Reave as my bonus talent and I’ll explain why. I noticed on Insanity that any lvl4 Evolution ability that can hit multiple targets is worthless, all enemies on Insanity have Barriers/Shields/Armor and the “splash damage” those abilities provided is really gimped. I made all the lvl4 abilities for my Shepard and squad “Heavy” for max single target DPS which allows me to blow up a target quickly then move on to the next. On Insanity I do a rotation of Heavy Reave>Unstable Warp>Heavy Reave with Shepard+Miranda+Samara; this rotation blows up all enemies on Insanity except for Geth Primes, Heavy Mechs and Scions which my Widow can take care of.

I’m not knocking Warp Ammo and Tungsten at all and have played with them as well but I have so much Element Zero that respeccing to test different things out isn’t a problem. My rotation works really well on PC since I can hotkey Reave>Unstable Warp>Heavy Reave to the 1>2>3 keys without pausing combat, having Active Squad casting turned off also helps.

AI Hacking was working well for me on Hardcore but when I made the switch to Insanity I saw how useless it and Dominate where. :bluu:

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If reave is that good I’m going to have to not choose Morinth over Samara on my next play through.

[Higher-Jin]

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If reave is that good I’m going to have to not choose Morinth over Samara on my next play through.

It’s still nice to have all the powers, so you had to get her at least once.

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Furthermore, getting your brains fucked out, literally, is awesome in it of itself. Also, during the proposition I LoL’d at the option “No thanks, I’d rather live.”

[Drunken_Geordie]

PROTIP: On the planet scanning screen pulse your LT you’ll get a much faster speed, and should still be able to catch most of the spikes.

I mentioned that to someone a few pages back. It is crazy how much faster it makes probing and it becomes a lot less tedious. I got all ship upgrades in no time at all by doing this and just hitting the rich planets.

[colguile]

Is there anyway to get a look at your shepard VI? I tried looking for a place to put it in my room, but I guess u can’t put it in there.

[orochizoolander]

From what I’ve played thus far I think the sentinel is probably the best class in the game (about the only one I haven’t played is the infiltrator, and he may very well be better because cloak seems like a fucking life saver).

Tech armor is an awesome ability. Stronger shields, blows up when destroyed, and gives a 15% power damage bonus. What’s not to love?

Sentinel can handle shields (overload), barriers and armor (warp), and he can even take out husks in the red with throw. They also seem to get the largest cooldown bonus from the class skill (-30% recharge time). The sentinel’s only real weaknesses are a lack of weapons and ammo powers. Both can be easily amended with Advanced Training. (Warp Ammo and Sniper Rifle are best, IMO)

Adepts seem like the worst class in the game (though by no means unplayable). Later difficulties are definitely a bitch since shields, armors, and barriers are everywhere.

Going to see what the hype is with sentinel on my 3rd run (wow I spent 60+ hours so far -_-) but currently engineer is tops imo, attack drone is almost TOO good and incinerate is still the most useful ability overall. Heavy charge is pretty fucking awesome maybe on insanity it won’t be as good but on veteran it rapes combined with improved cryo ammo I can freeze and shatter an army by myself and if I’m in a tight spot area reave FTW!

So, I think it’s time to have a little discussion on the possible ramifications of ME2 and what this means about the Reapers, etc.

for Mass Effect 2

[details=Spoiler] As we know, the Collectors that we have been fighting throughout the game are simply Protheans that have been highly genetically modified to behave as mindless servants for the Reapers. Previously we had been told by Virgil in Mass Effect 1 that the Reapers were interested only in wiping out all sapient life forms in the galaxy. This statement appears to be untrue, and leads to questions about why they’ve decided to let the Protheans survive.

Now, it appears that they let the Protheans survive so they could complete the construction of a new Reaper ship. If this is true, we have to assume there was an attempt to build a Prothean Reaper, but this failed. I believe EDI says this herself in the game. Why did the Reapers keep the Protheans around after this? Did they simply need a race of servants whom they could easily take over at any time? Obviously they’re useful now that they were trying to build a human Reaper, but there’s really no way the Reapers would have known they’d need that sort of help in the future.

The motivation behind the Reaper attacks are clearer to me now too. They aren’t wiping out all sentient life; they’re absorbing the essence of all life so that they can build a new Reaper. This may be how the Reapers come into being, and it would explain the motivations behind their cyclic destruction of all life forms.

Through the game, you play against the Collectors, and your opponents are often taken over by an entity known as Harbinger. Deceptive cutscenes lead us to believe Harbinger is a Collector General, but towards the end we discover that Harbinger is in fact a Reaper, who is simply assuming control over the Collectors for his own purposes, including the General. During fights, Harbinger states “We are your genetic destiny.” At first I assumed he meant that he was referring to the Collectors, and that humanity would be similarly modified. However, it would appear he was actually referring to the Reapers themselves. If they absorb the essence of all species to create a Reaper that is similar in appearance to the absorbed species’ form, perhaps this is their version of ‘evolution’ - the creation of a perfect machine/organic hybrid with no weaknesses, the avatar of an entire species.

But where did the first Reaper come from? Was this just an experiment by an advanced race that went horribly wrong?

When you’re on the derelict Reaper, people mention that the God is dreaming, and they can hear the God’s dreams. They’re referring to the Reaper Ship, that is defunct from the massive blast that scarred the surface of a planet (nice homage to a hint in the earlier one, I wondered if that was a shot from a battle with the Reapers). Even though the Reaper is most likely truly ‘dead’, it still appears to be able to effect the minds of others.[/details]

In ME1 Sovereign says he “has always been”. More then anything else I’m curious to see the “lost crypts of the beings of light destroy the synthetic machine devils”. They just cannot have an obscure volus hint to existence of an anti reaper life form only to completely ignore it in ME3, if that was the case I’d almost completely dismiss ME3 as garbage plot wise.

Not sure if I should go with infiltrator or sentinel now grrr. Also after getting a good feel for all ammo I’d take incinerate over warp any day because incinerate does more against health and especially armor which is wayyyyy more prevalent then enemies with barriers at least on veteran and probably insanity as well. Cryo ammo is great too because it freezes enemies almost instantly allowing you to nullify an entire group whether they have barriers, armor, or both, and frozen enemies take more damage.

[KYO84]

Yo Zoo, Tech Drone and Cryo Ammo are garbage on Insanity, you’ll see once you start. Infiltrator and Sentinel are where it’s at on that mode. Cryo Ammo gets resisted unless shields/barriers/armor are taken down first but once you break through and expose their red health they die almost instantly to gunfire anyways and Tech Drone dies so fast on Insanity too. :bluu:

[Drunken_Geordie]

Does Warp Ammo count against the warp 25 enemy barriers achievement? I chose that when starting on Insanity since I never got the achievement on normal but I haven’t got a clue whether it actually counts or not.

If it doesn’t what should I be using out of the available loyalty abilities (I’m a Infiltrator)?

[arcelonious]

I have to say, Bioware did a pretty good job with the Afterlife club on Omega. If you have a decent sound setup with your TV, it does a good job of making it sound like you’re in some electronic club. I like how you can hear the music outside the club, and then as you walk closer it grows louder, and then as you walk onto the floor, the music suddenly starts blasting. And then as you walk through some dark pathway, the music you first hear fades except for the bass, and as you enter the next room, bam, some hard-hitting electronic music.

Back in my early twenties I used to hit up either hip hop shows, raves, or clubs sometimes even 2-3 times a week, and for some reason, I felt a little nostalgic when I first explored the Afterlife Club in Omega, haha. All it needs is a bigger crowd of people dancing and walking around, other people lying on the floor “rolling” their asses off, and some shady cat trying to slang shit by constantly chanting, “Ex…doses…shrooms…” It kind of made me want to hit up a rave again for old times sake, although I don’t think I’d have the energy to hang until 6-8 in the morning anymore (unless it’s Vegas).

[Yuna]

Does Warp Ammo count against the warp 25 enemy barriers achievement? I chose that when starting on Insanity since I never got the achievement on normal but I haven’t got a clue whether it actually counts or not.

It doesn’t. However, an Infiltrator should use Warp Ammo anyway. It’s fantastic.
One interesting fact, though…if you order your squad mates to use Warp, then it counts toward the achievement. I got the achievement just by taking Thane with me everywhere.