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That being said:
Marvel was a decent movie. I felt the same way about it like I did with Cap 1. Decent, but you can explain the arc of that character in 30 seconds.
I don’t necessarily disagree here. However, an arc is about the journey. We are 1 movie deep and claiming she’s DOA is a bit egregious.
It’s not like Thanos only hit one planet. Movies don’t need to explain everything. There was a time where creators assume the audience infers things. Thanos was already leveling worlds. Also background wise, the MCU was building, Capt. Marvel probably came in later in the discussion.
Knowing where this came from is would be like a meta-easter egg. Cool detail, but does nothing for character development. Capt. Marvel doesn’t remember, and Nick Fury is dead.
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Cap was fixed by the Russos in the WS and CW. Thor was course corrected in Ragnarok. It’ll be fine
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That’s the way they wrote the story. If you want to be technical, Thor wasn’t ver.Ragnarok_OP, Ant-Man just punches stuff, maybe Scarlet Witch but her powers were (in the MCU) never Destroyer class level. It was OK to let her do it. I think the next run of films she’ll be grounded. It’s the new plaything at the moment.
That’s not really an argument but I guess you’re okay with that kind of stuff. I’ve never felt like any singular character in the MCU has ever been pushed as an ace in the hole. Not even Dr Strange was used like that. And he was integrated in IW amazingly. Plus every character sans cap have been nerfed from the comics to make them more relatable.
Subjective opinion and all that sure. But how is Carol a character? I can give you points as to why Scarlet Witch is a character and why her almost victory against Thanos is earned unlike Carols stand off against Thanos
The comics=/=the movies please don’t do this.
If we are gonna go this route and just hand wave away critics or pacing issues with “iz jus comicz bro don’t think bout it XD” then we’ve lost as viewers.
This is the worst type of power creep because now they’ll just have to find a new bad guy to punch Carol harder than the last guy for her to even have stakes. Whats her weakens? What’s her limit? How long can she stay Binary? If her powers are 1 to 1 from the comic why didn’t her solo movie or EG touch on this?
Everybody this is twinblades: the only SF5er decent enough to come here to talk abouy Endgame instead of crying about why they should be allowed to post spoilers in the SF5 section. So in other words,
Didn’t you complain about the time travel aspect of the movie?
The reason I can’t feel the girl power moment is none of the females have bonded and grown together to make that moment felt genuine.
“But the men do it all the time lol”
Right but The Avengers themselves do this as the norm. It’s already expected of the men. When did those women ever have a team up moment in the MCU? The last movie? And this? It is what it is I know but I get where some peeps are coming from
*I will note this is in reference of the MCU again
Yup. It’s one of the few things I really hate about main stream comic’s. Always have. Always will. Time travel for the sake of retcons, for the sake of reboots, alternate earths, alternate timelines, everything under that umbrella. It’s the easiest and laziest solution but has the most complicated fall out.
Power Cosmic is some bullshit too but the a lot of the more main stream power cosmic users like Captain Marvel and Silver Surfer are pretty grounded and still get their shit handed to them regularly.
They’re no where near Galactus Level, Phoenix Force Level, or several of the other cosmic entities out there.
No doubt Captain marvel is the strongest character in the MCU right now. That doesn’t mean it’s going to stay that way.
I would argue that I knew who Cap was as a character and that resonated with me far more than what they tried to do with Carol. Cap was an underdog even after he got juiced up. He was a man with determination and fought with his heart. He hated bullies which is why for him it had less to do with this side or that side. He knew what it was like being weak and being shat on and we as the viewer saw this both when he was small and when he got big. Sure the movie has it’s issue and it’s def not one of my top MCU movies but Cap still felt like a person. Plus him having really grounded powers and the ability to throw a plate really hard made him more compelling to watch on screen.
I mean Iron Man 1 was bout Tony’s journey from being 0 to hero and they accomplished that with flying colors despite Tony being a snarky twit. Marvel regressing with Carol is lazy.
This isn’t just “movies” this is the MCU and Thanos is a cosmic villain.
If this is the case why retcon the Avengers name origin or anything that had to do with the Tesseract? I mean shit her existence completely invalidates the agency of Nick’s desire to stop alien threats because of Thor. “duuur I’m building this tech because magic he-man is on our planet now” “no actually 15 years ago I encountered another aliens species”. But naw I’ll wait another 15 years to start my team of super people."
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Dr Strange was a boss in IW and BP was boss in CW. Both of those characters were not Avengers nor main characters yet had ample time to shine and get to know them as characters. They didn’t feel like devices to move the story along in a way that felt awkward or forced.
The couldn’t even get Carol right in her first movie.
I’ll concede about your last point with Marvel nerfing characters based on the narrative. However as you’ve stated they’ve done this to most of the cast as well as throughout multiple films. They do this obviously so the characters don’t feel like walking tanks just because “POWERZ XD” which I would argue is much better than the alternative. So that’s why Carol feels so out of place.
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Yeah the girl power moment is lame because
Carol doesn’t even need them. What the fuck is Mantis and Okoye gonna do. Halt Thanos lmao
So are you admitting defeat hhehehehehe
I actually agree with @Stuart_Hayden time travel is a shit plot device and it also is another reason why I shave off points from EG. It gave me one of my favorite moments in the movie but it’s still shit.
i agree with marvel being like cap 1. they were decent nothing blew my hair back. i didnt really like evans cap til winter soldier…that shit sold the fuck outta me
Resonance with Cap was the hook. I don’t think the amnesia plot with Capt. Marvel did much for the character. This is more because the movie told the story instead of showing it.
and then Avengers setup pt. 1 (BKA Iron Man 2) happened. Then the franchise made a decent course correction.
Your point referenced small gaps that allow an audience to infer what is going on. Throughout the saga there is the passing of time and obviously more than one character knows who Thanos is. Also, there is a gap between the post credits scene she was featured in to now. She got paged and came quick. Someone could have given her the low down off screen. It’s not something that is interesting or moves things forward, so it isn’t necessary to explain it on camera.
I’d say 1 and a tenth . I think this is just a by product of Marvel churning things out. I have confidence that by movie 2 they’ll get a groove. To some, it took 3 movies for Thor to get it right. In your example, Strange has been in 4 movies, BP in 3. Not saying that Marvel couldn’t be better, but there is more screen use with those two. I got a feeling coming in phase 4 all of her absences will pay off.
Happens in comic stories and anything else under the sun. Makes good tension.
No. He was hinted at in a dark world. Which honestly, who saw that travesty? He was “revealed” at the end credits scene of GotG vol.1 Vol. 2 in his cocoon state
. I think this is just a by product of Marvel churning things out. I have confidence that by movie 2 they’ll get a groove. To some, it took 3 movies for Thor to get it right. In your example, Strange has been in 4 movies, BP in 3. Not saying that Marvel couldn’t be better, but there is more screen use with those two. I got a feeling coming in phase 4 all of her absences will pay off.
